[urgent] hi i need help please

Discussion in 'General Discussion / Real life stuff' started by sebastiann, Nov 27, 2015.

  1. MC_Scout

    MC_Scout Fearless Leader Staff Member Manager

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    Let me preface by saying a few things. For one I don't agree with most of the things Christians say about social issues. All I'm doing is providing you reason for WHY your parents might argue against being transgender. If you actually read what I'm saying you will see that I'm actually giving you an argument that might help. For two I'm not like you, I'm "cis". However even if i was Gay,Bi,Trans,ect, my parents would still support me, so I don't know how it feels to be in your situation, nor could I imagine it. However my parents have gave me a hard time for other decisions i have made. I realize that being Transgender is not a choice, but bare with me. Im also part of a church, one that has a unique view on LGBTQ+ people. While reading this, know that i'm not forcing you or anyone to follow Christianity, your choice is yours. I don't benefit from you using this argument, but you might. As I said before, everyone has a set a morals that they they feel passionate about. They key to talking with Christians with social issues is not to dismiss their beliefs but to CHALLENGE them. You can say "I'm atheist, I don't believe that". That is an argument you can use. But that will not change them. That is like telling someone that is gay “Being gay is a sin, therefore you can't be gay”. Your best effort lies with beating them at there own game. And this is where the argument starts:

    The number one thing that christians will say is that (insert LGBT+ category here) is a sin. This is debatable, however the widely accepted doctrine, this applies to the catholic branch, is that such sin exists. However There are multiple things that are wrong with this argument.

    The most fundamental one is that everyone sins John 8:1-11 says this.

    The point illustrated here is that everyone is sinful in nature. So even if being transgender is a sin, it makes you no different than anyone else, including your parents.

    If they mention something about going to hell remind them that any one sin is punishable by an eternity in hell, and everyone sins. (proof)
    The idea of Christianity is that we ALL deserve to burn in hell, but Jesus came and died for our sins. That's one of the very basic concepts of it.

    Thats your defense, that's the number one argument.

    For the offense:

    Argument one is that Jesus did not act high and mighty, he was humble. During bible times the religious leaders were very arrogant. The bible states that Jesus did the opposite. Luke 5:27-32 says this. Tax collectors at the time were very corrupt. They were the scum of the earth, everyone hated them. Where most people shunned them, Jesus welcomed them with open arms. One of the key things taught to me is to love some no matter what. That's something you want to point out. Again Im not saying that being transgender makes you scum, but try to see the point I made.

    Sense there Catholic you have a second argument. The pope (leader of the Catholic Church) does NOT reject LGBT+ people. Read this (time article)

    My opinion, While Im on the topic, is thatI personally dont subscribe to the fact that being LGBT+ is a bad thing. Most of the arguments in the Bible are taken out of context. Its not our place to judge who should be with who, and what your personality should be.


    This all is summed up with the fact that the Bible tells us to love your neighbor as you love your self. Jesus did not lead through fear, but through compassion and mercy. All this is something you need to point out.

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    This is a lot of information, you might think its rambely and over religious. You're probably wondering why this benefits you.

    If you go down the road of “I don't believe in Christianity” it will not go anywhere. As I said you should try to see things through their prospective, something that I have provided you with. If you can see their perspective you can then build an argument that persuades them. Your basicly using there own argument against them. Its no guarantee It will work, but it is worth a shot.


    You might not like this argument, but it is a valid argument with a base that Christians can understand; the bible. As I said you DONT have to believe in any of this.


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    While I'm here I want to add a few more things that don't deal with Christianity.


    First off, this might surprise you, is that I suffer from anxiety as well. I tend to overthink problems, and they are never as bad as they end up to be.

    I am 90% sure your parents won't disown you, that's ridiculous. As Neter said, its not acceptable for that to happen. Lots of christian parents have kids that don't follow their morals, such as sex before marriage. VERY few of them disown there kid.

    You're also still a minor, so they can't throw you to the curb, that's called Child endangerment/neglect They can put you up for adoption, but that requires court proceedings, which cost money, that also makes them feel like shit.

    What is possible, and likely, is that your parents won't approve of your decision to come out, and probably the reality that you're Transgender. However most kids in America will disappoint their parents, it's part of growing up. Any kid that hasn't is either brainwashed or lying. Good parents will recognize the fact that even if they don't believe in what you do, its your choice. You are almost an adult, and there is little they can do to stop you,especially if it's not illegal.

    You cant not force your parents to think a specific way. What you can do is try to get them to at least accept you for who you are, not agree with, but accept and support you.


    I would seriously doubt that. Being homeless means that no computer, no cell service, and little money. If you go to a homeless shelter most of them are divided by biological sex. I think you know why that could be a problem.

    That said if something like that comes up I encourage you to look http://www.translifeline.org/] here [/url]


    I think the other problem is that you've procrastinated on asking for help, to the point where you are down to the wire. I've been there before, I tend to avoid situations that make me uncomfortable, and I will avoid them tell the last minute. The thing is that they don't go away, and ignoring them only causes a lot of stress, the anxiety builds up, and it makes something way harder than it should. My advice to you is to get a head of the game, give yourself plenty of time. Other tough situations will appear down the road, I can attest to that. I urge you to learn from this experience and not let anxiety get ahead again.


    This is a lot of information to read. You might think I'm an asshole for saying this, and if you dont someone will. However I spent at least three hours writing this response. If I did not care about you do you think I would spend three hours on this? No.

    I can't make the decision for you, but I will give you the best of luck.
     
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    A rather quick post, today's the day u,u. I'm veryyyy nervous
     
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    Just do what your most comfortable with.
    Some of this advice might seem hard to use. Dont make your self uncomfortable, be your self. Prehaps you can ask frank for advice
    or im sure that website's number I gave you will help.
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    As a last pice of advice I have this:
    There is no shame in disappointing your parents, especially if its something that you feel passionate about, and is not stupid, this is neither.
    You can't control how your parents feel, but you can ask them to accept it.
     
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