2024 Election Thread

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Who are you voting for in the 2024 Election?

Poll closed Nov 15, 2024.
  1. Donald Trump (R)

    16.7%
  2. Joe Biden (D)

    16.7%
  3. (R) Ticket - Trump will be incapacitated/off ballot

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. (D) Ticket - Biden will be incapacitated/off ballot

    50.0%
  5. Other/write-in - Comment

    16.7%
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  1. Joeyy

    Joeyy Silly Goose of the year 2022 Donator

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    And here I was thinking I was getting a compliment :(
     
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    Biased news source.
     

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    You seriously need to stop. [Redacted because Rob is a jerkface]
     
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    You're only trolling and you know it. You're not actually putting anything of real substance. This stopped being a civil discussion 6 pages ago.
     
  5. Joeyy

    Joeyy Silly Goose of the year 2022 Donator

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    I’m not going to lie, couldn’t sleep last night so watched a bit of the debate to see how things went - If you want to sit and tell me that Trump didn’t absolutely shit the bed then I’d be stunned, it was arguably worse than what I’ve seen of Biden.

    Genuinely surprised by Harris however, came across as very confident and spoke very well, Trump’s constant misinformation, including the dog-eating remark is a dangerous game, especially when it’s been proven as false.

    As I’ve said before, I don’t really follow American politics, I’m Irish so I couldn’t care less what’s going on across the pond, but from watching I can understand the appeal of Trump. He is a yes man, and says what people want to hear, it explains why he has such a successful past in business and other ventures, however it’s clear that he’s a liar and a grifter.

    Harris absolutely smoked him in the debate if we’re being honest.
     
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  6. Joeyy

    Joeyy Silly Goose of the year 2022 Donator

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    How is it not? She absolutely wiped the floor with him with direct answers and a confidence that Biden lacked massively. He was quick to spread misinformation and constantly deflect or dismiss the questions asked, even going as far as to constantly interrupt the moderators of the debate with another remark. There was a constant use of “This is what we did that is great, this is what Biden did that is bad” and no mention of resolutions for ongoing problems. Ffs in response to the Israel - Palestine conflict he basically just said “yeah it wouldn’t have happened because I’m just built different fr”



    I guess we’re just doing racism now.

    (also notice how this is an AI generated picture, the police force of the town in which these attacks claims to have happened have even said it’s not true, but keep your tinfoil hat on and pander a racist view a little longer big man, definitely helps your case)
     
  7. Joeyy

    Joeyy Silly Goose of the year 2022 Donator

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    Who are contributors to the third world being run down? You colonise and take the resources of these countries and then complain when some of those who live there follow you back for the chance of a better life. America was built on immigration, and that’s an undeniable fact, Europe on the other hand is dealing with a rising issue with far right activists, pandering racist views under the guise of being “patriotic” when in reality it’s coked up knobheads smashing up shops - Really saving the country that?

    On the topic of Trump, the cats and dogs remark is completely untrue, his debunked rhetorics on Project 2025, he denied his involvement in the January 6th attacks, he may not have been at ground zero, but he absolutely instigated the riots - on the topic of this, he also denied any blood was shed, despite 2 deaths on the day of the riots, and hundreds of suicides in the following period from police officers due to the trauma and factors relating to what they witnessed. There is also no evidence of migrants coming into the US from mental asylums. He also claimed that under Biden the US has seen the worst inflation in its history, which is just not true either lmao - the man is full of shit.

    your racist view is pandering to the demographic that all Haitian immigrants are problematic due to the alleged actions of a few - By this logic, all white people are school shooters based on the most common characteristics of mass shootings in the US. It’s not true, but if we’re using your logic it is.


    On the topic of my home nation, you’re clearly baiting. Conor McGregor is a coked-up asshat who’s desperate for attention, he would need at least 40 signatures of approval from members of the Daíl Eireann, which he won’t get to even stand a chance of running for president. He also has a criminal record, immediately voiding his chances of being the Irish president, not to mention the multiple accusations of SA against his name.

    Finally, you cite X as a valid source of information, and using accounts that support the racist “Ireland is Full” rhetoric, which has become more prominent and cancerous as time has gone on, these people are closely aligned with the BNP and other far right British groups, which is ironic given their desire to see “Ireland for the Irish”. By the way, those groups of people have been chased out and laughed at of towns, including my home city, because everybody thinks they’re muppets.

    I enjoy the clownery here and there and a bit of trolling, but you’re either very good at this or just absolutely daft and believe everything you read.

    On behalf of the Irish, pog mó thóin :)
     
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    Haven't been on here in a while but I saw this thread was the most recently active and oh boy. Can't believe anybody would want to vote for Trump, especially after that horrible debate performance last night. "Illegal immigrants are stealing your dogs and cats and pets and eating them" is some insane blood libel garbage. And "They are doing transgender operations on illegal immigrants in prisons" is a pretty wild, mad libs kinda statement to make too.

    Like if you're still believing the insanity that spewed from his mouth during that debate especially, you're cooked. You're never leaving the cult.
     
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    I have not watched the entire debate, partially due to me not having enough of an interest to watch a ~2 hour video of two people yap at each other. However, I have read a few articles about the debate (albeit there might be biased opinions, which is understandably unavoidable). I might watch highlights of the debate on YouTube (praying these highlights are actually factual and not “roast moments”) and I may edit this post later if I find more information I deem relevant.

    Once again, I reiterate that I really don’t know and fully understand American politics so my view is limited to what I have read. As a foreigner, I don’t really have much regard about what happens within the US. However, one thing I do care about is the state of the US economy due to investment-related purposes - and from what I’ve read, during the debate neither Trump or Harris have mentioned reducing the US budget deficit. In fact, both of them brought up plans that incur more borrowing such as Trump’s plan to stop taxing Social Security Benefits and Harris’ plan to extend tax cuts for those earning less than $400k annually.


    While in the short run this can be seen as a positive due to deficit spending potentially leading to a rise in stock prices, especially if the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates, a lack of definitive plans could potentially lead to higher inflation for US investors and lower returns for bondholders in the long run. Government borrowing will inevitably result in the release of more T-bonds, which will add supply to the market, and possibly drive down prices and maybe even give investors the confidence to demand for higher yields.

    I’m sure both parties have plans on how they plan to further improve the state of the US economy and I’m just currently not completely aware of. However, I just find the lack of plans regarding budget deficit to be concerning, especially since the budget deficit has been climbing over the past 8 years despite whoever was in office.
     
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    The majority of major market analysts believe that a rate cut might occur by the end of next week, by approximately 25-basis points. There are a majority of factors that contribute to this belief which include but are not limited to: a.) the unemployment data released as of August, b.) annual inflation rate and, c.) the fact that the Fed’s counterparts around the world, have already started cutting rates (although admittedly, this last one is more of a personal opinion rather than fact-based as there are not many articles I have read which have investigated the correlation between international pressure and cutting rates).

    Furthermore, I believe that the decision of the European Central Bank, which is in line with the idea of reducing its key interest rate, will also heavily impact this decision of the Fed. We’ll actually find out by later/tomorrow depending on which part of the world you live in.
     
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    And you can't discuss. Point?
     
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    doesn't matter if all you say is hogwash
     
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    It’s more about the way this person is participating in this discussion, questioning the validity of others opinions and presented points and labeling it but won’t acknowledge that some of his own logic could be Trump propaganda.
     
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  15. Joeyy

    Joeyy Silly Goose of the year 2022 Donator

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    This thread has been dead a couple weeks as there’s not been a lot of interesting things happening other than JD Vance chatting a bit of balls, but just curious to see people’s take on how people have criticised mainstream celebrities for their takes on the race - more so Chappell Roan.

    she’s been criticised for not explicitly taking a side or refusing to endorse a specific candidate, due to her being a spokesperson for the LGBTQ+ community and the discriminatory and divisive views from more conservative minded candidates, and criticising both sides for their flaws, which is perfectly valid - neither candidate is perfect and look promising for America.

    I personally think people are reading too much into things, I carry the same viewpoint in that I know which side I’d prefer to win, but I don’t want to directly endorse either party because both are promising everything and nothing at once, just want everyone else’s takes on things.
     
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    I align with values of the Republican party more than the Democratic party so naturally Trump. I dont agree with everything the party/he has to say, but I believe my quality of life would improve under him.

    Vance is also super sharp. I like him more.
     
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    A democracy and a republic are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    God I wish I could vote for Bernie Sanders still
     
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    Yeah? So according to that definition, a republic would be included in a democracy. (Also as a nitpick, I live in a country that has elected representatives, but it's not a republic!)

    It is a majority rules system though, it's just that the presidential election is 51 simultaneous elections effectively. I'd also argue that the United Kingdom is a democracy, despite whoever has a majority of the seats in House of Commons rarely gets a majority. Is the US less democratic than other countries? Sure. But it is still fundamentally a democracy, as US citizens pick their Representatives, their Senators and electors for their President. It's just that your head of state isn't a monarch or dictator, so you're a republic (and a democracy).

    When was the last time a faithless elector changed the result of the election? I assume this is what you mean, because otherwise they seem to pretty reliably follow the at large popular vote for their state (Maine and Nebraska weirdness aside)
     
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    boy so do I
     
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