want to clear some misconseptions about the EULA

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  1. JULTAR100

    JULTAR100 Donator

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    so over the last few days alot of drama have been up thanks to the blacklist
    and with this drama bring's very common thing's
    misconception
    and people saying stuff that is not true to try get people to go against Mojang
    and angry hate comment's without wanting to listen to reason
    so I thought I would give some more light on this as it keeps on happening
    and I for one am sick of it

    1: this was Made so Mojang can get more Money
    This is 100% not true, why would they when they already have money from the accounts they sold, and before you point at realm's, it had nothing to do with it and that is a fact, they even gave there reason's

    2: lack of communication with Mojang about this
    Look guy's, 2 years ago when this was first anounced they made it clear as day what they wanted and even gave us suggestions on what we should do about it
    is it our fault we told them to F off for 2 year's about these rule's, yes, we did the crime here, not them
    and it has been reviled that server owners breaking the EULA where given email's saying that this was a problem and it needed to be fixed, or the server will be blacklisted, a 7 day deadline to comply even though we been ignoring it for almost 2 YEAR'S, if it where me I would have blacklisted them off the bat, and legal action will be taken if needed
    that is good communication in my book as they made it VERY clear what they wanted

    3: no reply's from email's
    I could email them complaining about this and trying to middle ground
    no, they made it crystal clear what they want and what would happen if you did not listen
    is it there fault you guys are nagging and not listening
    you ignored them still, they punish you like they said they would
    it is our fault for not payying attention to something that is clear
    and most of the time these email's are rude and childish
    and you ignoring them, I am the same, I hate being ignored, they told us to do these crystal clear rule's for 2 YEAR'S!!! if you do not know what they want after 2 years I would suggest you go back to pre school and learn the basic's

    4: server's will not make any money as there is nothing to sell
    this is a stupid one, I can name a good amount of thing's that comply with the EULA without even trying

    5: people will not buy cosmetic item's and the server will die
    HOW DO YOU KNOW!!! do you have a crystal ball that let's you see the furture so you know it will happen????
    this comment is purely ignorant
    and if people do not donate, then they did not care about the server to beguin with, only people who cared about the server will donate to keep it up

    6: I can no longer buy kits and be OP
    this one is the one that get's brought up the most(from what I can see)
    all I can say is this
    why did you buy the game if you had no intent on playing it properly??
    It could be as if I went into a game shop and buy a new game
    only to give it to someone else with money and say
    "I cannot be bothered to beat it, take £10 and do it for me"
    again, why buy the game if you are not bothered to play it
    it remove's all value for why you brought the game
    to play it
    you buy game's to play game's, not because you have money in your pocket and are too lazy to beat it yourself


    There are hundred's more but I thought I would list the main one's, since if I where to put them all, I would be here till the next centery
    but if there is any you want cleared up please comment below and I will tell you why

    Also this was not made to draw Hate or drama, if you want to put immature Hate comment's I would strongly suggest you do it somewhere else

    thank you
     
  2. MC_Scout

    MC_Scout Fearless Leader Staff Member Manager

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    The EULA is concerning server owners, not players. Im not sure what this us you speak of is.

    Secondly, J&H is not the server you should be targeting with this. This server is complying with the EULA, BEFORE Mojang even issued cease and desist emails to us as they did with gotpvp and DesireCraft(two servers on blacklist that won't change). Unless its changed, this server is NOT blacklisted yet. Your preaching to theh choir here.

    Lastly most of your thread is your opinion, or speculation which you are entitled to. However it is NOT fact.
     
  3. JULTAR100

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    this is aimed at the community since as you can see, alot of people are getting pissed at Mojang
    just trying to lay down fact's so people who do not know the issue will have an idea on what is going on
    as when people are upset they will say anything, even if it is fake, to try get them on there side
     
  4. TheDiamondPicks

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    The whole lack of communication thing, as far as I can tell is true. It appears Mojang is unwilling to have a productive discussion with a lot of servers. The original blog posts about this were clear, but saying servers had two years too update is a bit different. Because Mojang did not choose to include a punishment for not complying, many servers did not see a need to comply as nothing bad will happen. So saying they had two years to comply includes the connotation that they knew they would be blacklisted which is false. The blacklisting information only surfaced a few weeks ago (After may I point out several emails to Mojang about it from other servers). So basically if we are going by time the punishment has been known, they had more like two-three weeks to comply, or be punished. I do agree with the rest of your point even if I dislike your wording of them.
     
  5. JULTAR100

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    people should have complyed to beguin with
    they have every right to do this to the server owner's
    the owner's ignored Mojang's rule's for 2 year's
    basicly telling them to F off
    and now when mojang punish them for ignoring them for 2 years they get pissy
    there is a saying for this sinereo
    what come's around, goes around
     
  6. MC_Scout

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    Again, This server is not saying they dont have the right. J&H are complying with what Mojang said.
    You seem to have this misguided vendetta against this server and the players here, when in fact this server is complying with Mojang.

    Again, your message is useless here, sense it's already being practiced.
     
  7. JULTAR100

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    it is not aimed at the owner's
    it is aimed at the community
    who are being incredably childish about this situation
     
  8. t3mptr3s

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    Look at it this way.... hundreds of thousands of people play on servers that have pay features. Take those features away and the game is now boring to those players. Maybe the way they are expressing themselves is wrong but it is very likely massive amounts of people will stop playing the game.
     
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    As I said in my post, there was no reason for those server owners comply. It was a Win-Lose situation, if you complied you would lose profits (Yes, that does happen), if you didn't comply it wouldn't matter. Now there is a incentive to comply so it becomes a different situation.
     
  10. JULTAR100

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    because they are lazy and do not want to lose there OP stuff??

    Mineplex and Hypixel complyed, and they are still up, but like I said before
    server's that people care about will stay up
    server's that people do not care about will not
    or do we think there should be thousand's of empty server's with nobody but the owner's on
     
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    Well Said...
     
  12. t3mptr3s

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    I would say I am the furthest thing from being a lazy player. I put a lot of time into my builds but I primarily play on survival where there isn't really any winning.

    I'm talking across all servers not just this one. And to be honest, as an adult that has played on Mineplex on a regular basis in the past; the lag and the attitude of the kids that play is worse than what happens here in kitpvp. Staff isn't nearly as present.
     
  13. JULTAR100

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    I would suggest you read star's comment on eula sale to know what I am talking about
     
  14. dinoceros

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    I have nothing against you saying that you agree with the EULA, but i really dislike the way you interpreted the thread.
    Lol... no need to make that much of a big deal out of it... you could've interpreted that thread in a way more delicate & non-toxic way while sending the same message as you did.
     
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  15. JULTAR100

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    at least I was less toxic that the other 95% of the internet about this topic
    also bump much??
    so locking now
     
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