Trump or Hillary?

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  1. Superfrog

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    >Stereotypes
    >Stereotype that Minorities like Spicy food
    >Say you like Hot sauce/Carry it around
    It's pandering 101
    except racially motivated
     
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  2. ANumber2Pencil

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    What o-o so anyone who says Hot Sauce is saying that Minorities like Spicy food? or is only when Hillary says it?
     
  3. Superfrog

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    >Go on talk show with people who are Minorities
    >Viewership most likely from Minorities who watch it
    >Say you like Hot Sauce
    >Surely this isn't pandering right?

    Here is more pandering, ah the smell of trying to get votes from Minorities so hard.
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  4. MC_Scout

    MC_Scout Fearless Leader Staff Member Manager

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    This thread is going off on a side tangent, please get it back on topic.
     
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  5. Braixen

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    Hillary.

    Don't get me wrong, Hillary is utter trash, she really is. She snubbed her base and ran to the right to get more votes. She has goldman sachs clearly puppeteering her, she panders the youth to the point where it's basically milking, and she gave a big middle-finger to all the bernie supporters. How Trump isn't landsliding her is beyond me.

    But, she isn't as bad as Trump. Now before I continue, I want to address multiple points I read @Venom_Snake make.

    "The mainstream media makes him(Trump) look like a baffoon."

    No, Trump makes Trump look like a baffoon. When Hugh Hewitt corrects Trump on hus statement about Obama creating ISIS, Trump doubles down on the idiotic claim, saying that Obama had a literal, direct connection to ISIS leaders, and helped them form. This is simply not the case. ISIS was created by Iraqian officuals after we toppled Saddam. Now, did Obama have an indirect hand at stremgthening ISIS? Ofcourse, same with the CIA and FBI. All 3 have armed Syrian rebels, which have always either led to Al-Nushra(Al-Qaeda in Syria) or ISIS.

    "The global threat of Terrorism at the moment."

    At the moment? Really? We've been fighting Terrorism, and islam as a whole, for 15 years(officially in 8 days). The threat of Terrorism has been doing on since The Mujahideen. So Terrorism isn't a recent threat, and our fighting has been doing nothing but fueling the fire.

    "We are at war with Terror"

    Actually, interventions. Interventions =/= War. And both are very different. We all know what War is. It's conflict. It's death and carnage of two diffferent and disginguishable sides. Interventions are severely different. Interventions, much like occupations, is when a larger military body intervenes into a country, in efforts to de-escalate the situation, or control area against a greater threat. Huge difference there, and it's very important to stay factual about that.


    Also, I just want to add real quick: Obama has done more interventions than Bush. Obama has bombed and intervened in 7 different countries. Now, some of you are thinking, "Oh, that isn't so bad!". Bush bombed and intervened in only 4 countries. Yeah. Obama has intervened in nearly double the amount of countries that bush did. Talk about keepin the peace, Am I right?

    Anyways, onto my opinion on Trump:

    He's a scumbag. For example, Trump stated that he wanted to spend MORE of our discretionary budget on Military. Just look at the discretionary budget now. 54% of it is being used on military. How much mire do you want to spend, Don? The Civil Union of Engineers gave our country's Infactructure a D, we can't get clean water in some of our cities, and don't get me started on education! But you still want to use more of that budget on MILITARY. Ok. And that's not even the worse. Trump has said things such as, "The Geneva Conventions are the problem", "We need to kill the families of terrorists", and "I'm going to do worse than waterboarding."

    Now, both are awful, but why am I siding with Hillary? Cuz she is predictable. If you break it down, but Trump and Hillary are equally scumbags. But Hillary is more predictable. Right now, Hillary is engaging in the GE strategy, where she runs to the right to get con voters. Looking at how she treated her base and how she treats her donors, it's clear she cares for corporations. So she's predictably going to help them, much like Obama. But Trump is unpredictable. Trump makes the same amount of contradictions as Hillary, but no one knows how Trump is behind the scenes. Corporations hate him, so it can't be that, The republican base is split on him, so it can't be that either . . . Trump doesn't have a clear path or goal, but atleast I can trust Hillary NOT to launch nukes on russia and end humanity as we know it.

    Sources:
    Trump on Hewitt: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/donald-trump-hugh-hewitt-obama-founder-isis/

    Trump on military spending: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...da8548-7513-11e6-be4f-3f42f2e5a49e_story.html

    Discretionary Budget: https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/2016-budget-chart-discretionary.png
     
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  6. KaiserVenom

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  7. vipa

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    Basically, it all boils down to choosing between a buffoon who may launch nukes out of incompetence, or a shady character who may launch nukes for personal gain.
     
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    Both parties are not good by any means. I am not voting this election because 1.) I am not old enough 2.) Both parties make me sick. And just the fact how bad both parties are. Trump is racist and prejudice and his ideas may be logical but that it not mean he can do a good job. I have seen some pretty crazy quotes from trump including, "Only I can make america great again." "A small loan of a million dollars." Now Hillary, (cringe) She is a liar and scary. She may have the sides of everyone now but the lies she has committed is crazy. She has committed high treason to America over 30 thousand times. And how can you explain all the "suicides" happening in public parks when a lawyer goes against the Clinton family? Why did she lie about landing under sniper fire? Why does she claim that she never hated gays until now, when there is video evidence saying in a former election of some kind when she did? I personally think that the Libertarian party should win to keep Hillary and Trump out of office.
     
  9. Joseph10003

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    Where is this thread even going off topic at?

    Anyways, I don't like either.
    If I had to choose though, I would pick Hillary I guess.
     
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    To be honest, who would want either? I know that social media make Trump seem worse than he is, but he is still terrible. From my point of view, I don't think he respects everyone and from what he has said so far, he comes across as very sexist and racist. Please don't respond to this or quote this, as I don't want to get into any arguments about Politics and I admit I don't know much about it. Thank you :)
     
  11. davidkaragezyan

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    I honestly prefer Trump over Hilary although both are terrible.
     
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    Hillary Clinton is no longer medically stable for a job like this. A doctor, not her treating physician, has listed 10 facts behind the fiasco about her and Parkinson's disease. If she does have this issue, which there are signs up the ass to back it up, America is in an extremely bad situation. Nonetheless, granted Hilary becomes president, she would immediately be incarcerated. In any case, Trump is the best suitable as president.
     
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