Just a discussion

It is basically the same because either way your identifying as something that you clearly are not.

Well back then, the civil rights movements had some legitimacy to them, now everyone is just arguing about "Misgendering someone" or "Not using the right pronouns".

Well, there are people identifying as transgender, when they still have the genitals and what not of their previous gender, no surgery needed. Why weren't there people like that pre 2000s?

 

Just like I said before and just like you just said.....
There were not many people doing it, so it was hard for a single person to come out and do it.

 

So what prompted them to start rapidly coming out as transgender? It took a large group of people to do it, and if no one was coming out like you said, then again, what prompted it?

 

So that's the only similarity you can find justifying the comparison? Just because it's something they are not?

It's a ridiculous argument that dehumanizes transgenders and makes them seem like they are stretching things when it's the other way around. Society doesn't have a helicopter or mailbox mentality built into it. It has man and women genders, and if someone feels like they weren't born in the right body, it's completely right. You can't have a sex change to a helicopter. You can't go into a bathroom for helicopters. There are no real helicopters that speak for themselves and and have rights.

Like you just said, technology changed it. The internet allowed people to become more connected with people that shared their interests. People saw that many others were like them and felt more comfortable coming out. They could hide behind a screen to see if people were accepting to test it.

Why fix something that isn't broken in the first place?

Just thought i edit this in because i just noticed it. That's the last thing though

 

I think I've shown my opinion and argued my fare share and same for you, lets digress, shall we?

 

Well I would relate it more to Schizophrenia. Because Transgender is something you are born with and it impairs your vision to see what is real and what is not. However we need to start treating Transgender like a mental disorder and not like it is normal. If someone who is schizophrenic believes that aliens are following him around and spying on him, we don't just tell him he is right and help him kill all the aliens. We try and help him understand the reality of the situation. However we also shouldn't treat them like shit and call them disgusting because it isn't their fault they have a mental disorder. Then need support but seriously is not natural and we shouldn't support it because the suicide rates of transgenders are staggering and they increase after someone has surgery proving that it isn't a solution.

 

Proof?

 

↑ I like this

 

I dont really agree with everything with the trans community. But do whatever you want. Its your life. If u want to switch genders do it. Just don't be crying that people dont treat you fairly.

If you got a penis. Go to the mens
If you got a vagina. Go to the womens.


I dont see it how its that complicated. If you cant agree with the above part. Then simply accept a different bathroom amd dont whine. Btw that dakota dude i saw his video up there is just talking stupidity

 

Sorry if you think that I am soft, or anything but legit I feel uncomfortable with the thread. "Heyy!!! don't look at it!!" I don't care. This thread kinda turned into a hate thread but that's just me.
Not gonna quote anybody but yikes!!! Thanks y'all for literally hating the fact the I/other trans people exist. It's not an opinion when you're disgracing people's existence. Being trans isn't a mental disorder and should not be treated/compared to as such. There are trans people whom have mental illnesses. (Me for example) Just because someone has a mental illness, it doesn't define who they are or who they will become. I feel as a lot of people around here need to hear that. We need to destigmatize having a mental illness. You're not a bad person if you have depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, etc. There's such a stigma that it's bad to have one. The reason the trans suicide rate is so high is because of people not treating them right, the bullying they get, the abuse, everything. Not saying that we shouldn't pay attention to 'others', just the topic of the thread is about being trans I asume.
You don't have to want/have the desire to go through physical changes to be trans. There's no standards you have to meet, you identify oppositely of your given sex, congrats!! you are transgender. No biggy. I haven't went through any physical changes yet, and I am still a male. I feel as I am one, people *sometimes* see me as one. I use the mens restroom (depending on the place). Attack me. Everything's been fine so far.
The people whom make jokes like I sexually identify blah blah, are just making a mockery of the trans community. Just so you know because I see a lot of people doing that here.

now we can stop being nasty

 

Quick question.
Why would someone pick something if they are going to be insulted? If I sexually identify as a male(which I don't), then I'm not mentally ill or picking what to be. It's just who they are. You make these people out to be these sick, poor people that need to be cared for and talk about how sad the suicide rates are, but in reality it's your faults. If I got told over and over again that I wasn't a real person or who I wanted to be and I'm just a walking mental illness, I'd do anything to get away too. But, tumblr is at it again, trying to defend people.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
Y'all need this

 

Wikipedia is not a reliable source

 

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/gender-dysphoria
http://www.dsm5.org/documents/gender dysphoria fact sheet.pdf
https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/gender-dysphoria
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001527.htm (government link)

Shall I go on

 

I'm just saying in general. It's not a reliable source as everyone has the ability to edit it.

 

Yeah, mistake on my part. Now I have government links to back me up on it though, so ty mate.
People who don't think it's a disorder now are disproven unless they have evidence that the government is wrong.

 

In the past the government allowed slavery, allowed colored people to have little rights, etc. It's very possible that the government is wrong and doesn't see anything from trans' perspectives.

Also what Obama did to start this thread contradicts what the government says in those links. Such a bold statement by Obama has to mean something.

 

I see your point there. However, contrary to what most people believe is right, the government has made controversial decisions in the past. Whether the decisions are good or not, the decisions in the past are what they are.

Slavery, racism, and such is not "I identify as a women". Slavery is beating people, being racist, etc. That is not some silly little thing like this. I know my opinion on transgender may be lone in this community, being that I'm against it and that 99% of the time it is for attention (before people kill me, I'm not saying all are). It's those type of people that ruin my opinion on it.

Also before people start saying "Well one person could ruin other things :(((((", it's not just one person, it's more than half the transgender community that are attention seekers. The reason that the suicide rates are so high is because they feel insecure, which caused them to change in the first place, being that it is a mental disorder, whether you all like it or not. It's scientifically proven, psychologists back it up, the facts are facts. Before the hands of tumblr got their fingers on it, it was treated like a mental disorder. Why do you think just a few years ago it was unheard of it being a moral thing.

So please, can someone explain to me why it isn't a mental disorder and PROVE it isn't a mental disorder? I have 4 links backing this up, and have yet to see one that is not opinionated towards trans people. And no, I don't want those 5 reasons why trans are real people articles that are like "It's ok to be yourself sweetie!!".

Edit: (I typed this on my phone, spelling errors are probably scattered throughout)

 

Does this thread need a trigger warning or something?