Minecraft Uhh... EULA is coming back..???

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  1. ThiccTurtles

    ThiccTurtles Builder Donator

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    Just look at this video...

    (The first part) IDK if this is real, or not. But it seems like it is... not sure if jerry and harry are aware of this yet, though i'm assuming they are
     
  2. Smg

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    I'm guessing this server would be fine, as there's little to no mini-games where you have to pay to advance fast/win.
    I'm not sure though; the owners would probably know 'bout this by now, and are sorting it out, hopefully.
     
  3. hologramable

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    its drama alert though... keemstar just rambles on about rumours. we never know if its real yet. so... I hope it isn't real.
     
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  4. John_0696

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    Ehh, I wouldnt trust Keemstar with videos like this, If you want something that's Informative, Try this video by AntVenom.

     
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    The guys in Keemstar's video are so bullshit, lmao. The people in the comments though seem to understand that the people who do those huge pay-to-win servers that won't revert are basically scumbags, and that it's not the whole community that's cancer. That's a positive, atleast.

    I believe that it should be the administrative team's priority to address the problem, and inform the forums of a plan to prevent us from popping up on the blacklist. That being said, a formal message here or in the news section would be greatly appreciated, team. @ItsJerry @ItsHarry @MrDeathWilliam
     
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    The following is based upon what I have seen from certain other Minecraft forums. Regarding J&H, I know about as little as you do!

    Essentially, what happened was about a month ago a bunch of emails were sent out to major servers regarding EULA enforcement from Mojang's brand enforcement team. Essentially these were generic messages stating what they needed to fix and when by, with no punishment specified. After a few other server owners got in touch with said team, it was found non-compliance would result in a blacklist from multiplayer. At the time this was happening the capability was not in the game, but it has since been added to the 1.9.3 pre-releases. At the moment there are very very few servers that are affected by this, and as far as anyone can tell it only effects the servers who said they would comply when they received the email, but have not.

    Edit: The Keemstar video is actually very, very accurate. So I would also recommend you watch it.
     
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  7. NotInUseBlaBlaBla

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    Let's just be happy play.itsjerryandharry.com isn't blacklisted.
     
  8. maymay

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    It's not confirmed yet.
     
  9. Denisvenom9

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    They haven't uncoded 4 servers yet.
     
  10. NotInUseBlaBlaBla

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    #PrayForJerryAndHarry
     
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  11. Defectus

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    This video is simply bullshit. First of all, can you please change the title of the thread to something more serious? "EULA is coming back" doesn't work like that. The EULA anti pay to win server enforcement thingy (Yes, I couldn't find a shorter name) has been enforced since its release, and now the only thing changed is that they're doing something about it. So to all those server owners and players who said "Well, they're not doing anything about it, so why should we do something about it?", this is the exact reason. While I do think that Mojang should have announced the moment the enforcement was announced that servers that won't comply with the enforcement will be blacklisted, I also don't think that anyone should rely on "They're not doing anything about it".
     
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    its just a prank from good ol' memestar, guys. don't even worry.
     
  13. MC_Scout

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    Keemstar, while he is a far shot from being perfect, is a gossip news site, and MOST of the stuff he reports is fairly accurate. Does he have problems, yes, but this was not one of them.
    If any thing Keemstar's video is more accurate then AntVenom becasue Keem was able to give the full story, investagate what happend, and interviewed owners of blacklisted servers, giving a full and accurate story.

    As for the EULA it self, let Jerry and Harry handel it. As shown in BOTH videos server owners were given cease and desist orders from Mojang in a more then reasonable amount of time. Its not like Mojang one day blind sidded everyone and shut servers down. IF this server is in violation, Im sure that Mojang will notify them in plenty of time. The only person these owners have to blame for this is them selves.
     
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    EULA (the intention of it anyway) is supposed to keep Minecraft from being a pay to win system which is simple enough, however what has not been formally adressed is the diffrence that defines between pay to win and pay for perk or enhancement. A pay to win system is more of a selling point to buyers with money, if you take factions for instance and a buyer can purchase bedrock for an example, since its not breakable and nobody can raid your base but you can raid others with eaze it becomes a pay to win or in Minecrafts case- a pay to prosper or simply, an unfair advantage where the player is either practicially or literally invincible. However a pay for enhancement is something as simple as simple as being able to wear a block on your head, not for protection, but just for giggles. Being able to walk around with particles that serve no tactical purpose but just because, or even donating to have access to an exclusive gamemode. These have all been tryed by server before including J&H but even if it doesn't fall under EULA's intention, it falls under their wording and thats how they're enforcing it. it's become evident that something needs to be done about this. But Mojang seems determained to get rid of this money making aspect of Minecraftthat really could be utalized for benefit. Minecraft could charge a minor tax on servers if they're that desprate for money but in no way is EULA a legitmate answer.
     
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    Mojang has made a few blog posts about this. Essentially they define cosmetics as:
    I think the keyword here is unfair, as that could be seen as some minor gameplay enhancing effects, or none at all depending on interpretation.
     
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    I don't believe that this could effect Jerry and Harry considering its a lot of mini games, its easy and fast to advanced as someone else commented as well.
     
  17. GalaxyPuffz

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    Yes, I can defiantly tell you that this is a legit, and a real threat to big Minecraft servers. I'd know this because I'm apart of one of the server's staff team that is currently blacklisted for 1.9.3 that was mentioned in this video (not going to say which one) but yes, this is a thing. As of now, Mojang has basically forced the larger server's hands by giving them no way to reason, or do anything other than comply with their demands; no sort of reply, or no answer other than "you're server will be blacklisted until you comply with the EULA, thanks"

    I believe that this server will not be affected by EULA as it's a minigame server first off. Meaning that there isn't that much you could really "pay2win" anyways as all the games are short and sweet. Unlike the gamemode server's that focus on games such as Skyblock, Prison, or Creative which draw out over a long period of time; which there you can add some of that "pay2win" aspect with donator ranks, and these types of servers allow more opportunities to make these types of ranks to increase their profit. Overall, this server is safe, but if you play on more than one server; chances are, you play on one of these bigger servers that are being affected by this. The only thing I can say is stay on 1.9.2 or 1.8 if you want to continue playing on the other servers. But hey, I play on 1.8... and JH is 1.8 complient... gives me an excuse to still play on 1.8 longer so win win for me I guess ;)

    Thanks again
     
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    I am happy they are doing this

    I have had it up to here with shitty pay2win server's
    worst part is 90% of server's have pay2win perk's
    try find one server which does not have them

    also
    no hate please
    this is just my opinion
    do not like it???
    well tough

    also I worked hour's a year ago finding and reporting server's breaking the EULA
    believe it or not
     
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