About Factions Reset

Discussion in 'Server Discussion' started by Ayg, May 15, 2015.

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Factions Reset?

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  1. Warden

    Warden Donator

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    1. Edit the kits. I think this should be a big thing, some of the kits contain the same thing, or something similer (Said in this: http://itsjerryandharry.com/threads/factions-change-kit-donator-to-something-slightly-better.56900/)

    2. Inactive factions get disbanded after a certain amount of time. What I mean by this is that if the player hasn't been on for a month or so, their faction gets disbanded or the leadership gets given to someone else. It's different if that person is banned, but if you look around (spawn especially) they're tons of factions that haven't been on since factions opened, and it just ruins the land and makes it harder to find land.

    3. A random tp command/sign (like @JeromeAlbert said)

    4. Make spawn slightly bigger, I'm not saying make it so that it takes 1 hour to walk from one side to the other, I just mean so that it can fit in some more cool features and maybe a couple more enchanting stations.

    5. Bring back the sitting plugin. That was probably the most fun thing about the old factions, that you could sit on the chairs at spawn.

    6. Bring back /trade. I found that extremely helpful for factions, we could trade with our members and if they needed materials for a base, we could just give them through that.

    7. Add a full sell command/sign in the shop, it's a pain to stand there for ages just to sell 5 stacks of something and your factions gonna raid.

    8. Expand the big bucks shop, so that there's more to sell/buy.

    9. Certain events that place. What I mean by this is that maybe one time there will be a war that goes on, so you enter, say 5 members of your faction, get geared up in your own gear and battle it out.

    10. (Probably gonna be obvious that this one will happen with the reset but I want to just suggest it just in case) A new seed. So instead of just resetting the world and keeping the old seed, get a new world completely.

    11. Everything @Bilbo said

    12. Everything @JeromeAlbert said.

    Done c:
     
  2. Katozaki

    Katozaki Nothing.

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    Simple idea for the end and probably the best, either make something resourceful in there, or make it a pvp arena for people, the end is way too small for factions to create bases in it.
     
  3. MrDecryption

    MrDecryption Retired [Faction] player

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    -Spawners being sold at spawn for expensive prices, ex. IronGolem spawner 1,000,000, Blaze spawner 75,000, etc.

    -Bigger spawn, allows more items to be available at spawn.

    -A better obby breaker plugin, I've had problems raiding with it. The obsidian wasn't breaking no matter how long I shot at it.

    -Removing ceggs from spawn and adding it to shop for a higher price than 5k. It is almost impossible to raid without ceggs and not a lot of people want to buy ceggs.



    I don't know why people compare stuff to jumping off a bridge, because those are two different situation, one contains your life and the other contains a reset.
     
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  4. JULTAR100

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    William posed a thread about 8 months ago asking if people wanted a reset
    alot of people said yes
    and even then people where leaving because everything is distroyed

    and after 8 months it has gotton even worse and even people are leaving because starting out is impossible

    I reccomend adding PVP tag
    people who use hacks like 2 use invisable potions so they can not see there name tags
    making it way easyer to hack and get away with it

    adding pvp tag will make catching hackers alot easyer
     
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    I payed a lot of money for my p4 kit I don't think they would do that.
     
  6. CaptainJackValdy

    CaptainJackValdy I got a plan to save the server, just have faith

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    why not? :3

    K
    Back on topic, if you just want a reset cuz all the land is destroyed, here's one thing, Not even a HALF had been destroyed... More than that, the 1/4 of the whole map haven't even seen a single player! I once came from spawn straight forward for atleast 3 Hours (ok, 2 hours and 58 minutes) to reach the border of the map. The half of my way looked like no one before me passed here. So yeh. Just be patient and walk. (Or Be patient and wait for staff to agree and actually do it, 8 more months)
     
  7. JULTAR100

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    running for 3 hours??[​IMG]
     
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  8. CaptainJackValdy

    CaptainJackValdy I got a plan to save the server, just have faith

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    (Took me 3 days, 1 hour per day bruh)
     
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  10. zee_man

    zee_man Just havin' fun! Faction Leader - KoB IGN: zmanmz Donator

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    OMG.. you couldn't be more wrong. Same thing people said when border was +-10K (20K world). Even then there were so many places to build a base and areas not even touched. Its only around the warzone that looks like a warzone. Then the world was expanded to +-15K and that wasn't even touched. I've had bases between 10K-15K for months that weren't found yet. Now they just doubled the border again! +-30K. Do the math.. it's probably more like 2% of the world destroyed right now.

    There is only one legit reason to do a reset in my mind - and that is to get rid of all the duped ceggs. The only problem with that is, what if a new glitch is discovered or used before it is patched and the same thing happens. Even though I have close to 11 million in factions money, I support this if there will not be a second server. Otherwise, it's hard for me to support losing everything I have worked so hard for. Eventually, the dupped cegg problem will go away and I have seen evidence that it is not nearly as bad as it was a few months ago now that people have been using up their duped ceggs. Heck , Owasis and Completion use so many blowing up my trap alone. XD

    I think the reset hasn't happened because of the financial logistics. What do the owners do with the ceggs people spent real money on? What if they purchased in game money? The other issues are; do people keep their money they have now? do they keep items in their inventory?; can they keep items that are in their echest? (I sure hope not on this one, because people will keep their duped ceggs in their echest and what doesn't fit they will give to friends to keep in their echest). These were all topics mentioned in the poll thread. One suggestion I made to deal with the financial issues, was to give everyone their purchases back that were made in the last xx days (xx being from 30 days to 90 days say). So even if you bought 20 ceggs and used them in the last xx days, (which there is no way the owners could know or not) you get 20 ceggs after reset. Otherwise there are some real big issues. Lets say you spent $25 to get 50 creeper eggs, then the server reset 2 days later. How fair would that be?

    The "2nd server" idea is good. Best of both worlds. There is no potential of screwing people out of real money they spent on the existing server. It lets people keep all their existing balance and items etc. I imagine most of the people who have been around a while and those who quit and were waiting for a reset will play the new server. The old server will diminish in usage and in time the owners may finally reset it and change the MC version. For new players, it wouldn't matter except I assume a new server would run MC 8.x and have some other changes that Willy alluded to when he made the poll.
     
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  11. JULTAR100

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    puting a second server would cost ALOT of money
    J&H would earn alot more money if the reset happens
    lets be honest here
    its all about the money

    and like I said before
    nobody has the dam time to run for hours to find an area than could very well be xray texture packed the next day
    we all got school, jobs and shit like that
     
  12. CaptainJackValdy

    CaptainJackValdy I got a plan to save the server, just have faith

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    kind of exactly what I just said, but k.
     
  13. JULTAR100

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  14. Kito26

    Kito26 -=-Potato-=-

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    Took the words out of my mouth :P
     
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  15. ItsHarry

    ItsHarry Owner Staff Member Owner

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    It's all about the money? If you don't know what you're talking about, please just don't say it.

    Creating a second server would not cost "ALOT of money". It would definitely cost more, but relative to the thousands of dollars we are already paying, it is a small increase. In fact, the idea of creating a second hardcore factions server was suggested by us first. Why would we suggest an idea that is not feasible?

    "J&H would earn alot more money if the reset happens" - For one, you are probably wrong. Two, according to your logic, why have we not reset the server months ago? This counteracts your statement "it's all about the money".
     
  16. Warden

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    So do Jerry and Harry. You have to think about Jerry and Harry's real lives.
    Yes, they said it months ago, but finals can hit you like a b**ch. They may of had the time when they said it, but at this point in time, they don't.But if you don't know fully know what you're saying, then don't say it.
    I agree with a second server. But its not always about money
     
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  17. JULTAR100

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    a second server would cost money and take up memory space which could be used for other stuff like minigames
    a reset instead of making a second server would make more money

    for 1 you would sell alot more creeper eggs
    because at this point people just sell the duped eggs for alot of cash meaning at this point everyone has atleast 5 eggs
    I mean come on
    people duped thousands of Ceggs
    2 you MIGHT sell more ingame cash because like I said before people sell the duped eggs for alot of cash
     
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  18. Warden

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    My swearing wasn't at you, I do apologize if it's taken the wrong way, but it's how finals is for most people at the moment and I couldn't think of another word at the time. :P
     
  19. JULTAR100

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    but you are right
    finals hit you like a dam truck
    but reseting the server does not take very long...... I think
     
  20. Warden

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    If I'm correct, a reset means replacing the files with a new set. Aka, removing the world and starting a new one, same with kits, enderchests, plugins, etc...
    This can take a very long time, depending on how many plugins the server has and how long it takes for each file to be replaced.

    If someone knows more about this, Correct me if I have missed anything or gotten anything wrong.
     
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