Well, here goes... Bias?

Discussion in 'General Discussion / Real life stuff' started by Yomc, Mar 17, 2014.

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  1. homieboy

    homieboy Joined J&H since Aug 2012 | Server Veteran

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    If you guys really want proof that Caity didn't get helper from DWG, here's some posts directly from the staff area




     
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  2. Yomc

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    I'm not assuming that Caity got help directly from DWG.
    But I know she was very friendly with Xenon. She told me once...
    "Yomc, I know someone recommended you at one point.
    I have my sources.
    And it wasn't Dylan."
    Anyway, I wasn't assuming that it was because of DWG, but I am assuming that favoritism was involved nonetheless.
     
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  3. JoeyBACONBacon

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    A bit violent, but that's almost exactly what I think.
    Just because someone is a helper doesn't mean they can control everything and be the only one who helps.

    It's like a 5-year-old with a new toy. He brings it into kindergarten on the first day and is so super-protective of it that he ends up slapping another 5-year-old and gets sent home.
     
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  4. Heatdude Da Waffle

    Heatdude Da Waffle Admin | Builds Things Staff Member Administrator

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    Only she's not going to be sent home.
     
  5. Kritt

    Kritt Bored Donator

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    Guys. Stop being so mean to Caity. She deserves this as much as all of the other helpers. Stop hating on her. Please.

    Also, Jerry and Harry have the final say in this right? So if they have the final say, how could any other person have become involved in the Helper choosing?
     
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  6. RockoR

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    Though there are many valid points I see here, we aren't here to flame someone. Let's just have a civil discussion about the matter, and not go off topic to some extent. I don't want to see this thread closed from discussion anytime soon.
     
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    Heatdude Da Waffle Admin | Builds Things Staff Member Administrator

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    Nobody was hating on her until she started hating on our friends. We were stating our opinions, but she decided to get defensive and aggressive. I almost didn't touch this thread due to how controversial it's going to get, and likely closed very soon. But I did, and I did because I think that the people who don't have any power should be able to say what we want, too. Apparently it's okay to hate all of the non-staff for mini-modding, but as soon as I point out how she's being rude I get sliced up and beaten to death for trying to stand up for my friends. Sorry, forgot about that. Same thing happened to Joey, Cole, and Wiki. Caity needs to leave us ALONE.
     
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  8. ColeQM

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    Okay guys, let's not get feisty now...
     
  9. Kritt

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    How is she hating on your friends? And please know that she has feelings too. I doubt she likes being treated this way, and as Cole said, stop begin so harsh on her :/
     
  10. homieboy

    homieboy Joined J&H since Aug 2012 | Server Veteran

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    What's the point of this thread? It went from general to a specific person and that person is pissed off right now? We practically gave you the procedure of promotions, and recommended players. What more do you guys want?
     
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  11. ColeQM

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    Please don't put me in this. I barely know Caity outside of a few casual conversations and the few SG games I play with her, bearpaw and others. I have nothing against her, other helpers, or anyone else on the server. I was hoping this thread wouldn't get closed so both sides could logically argue their side and nobody would get the last word, but it is most definitely going to turn into a flame war. Please lock so nobody else gets carped at.
     
  12. Yomc

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    Okay, what has this thread turned into.
    I respect everyone's opinions but this shouldn't be a Caity hate thread. I may not like all the things that Caity does but she doesn't deserve to be hated on.
    Anyway, point is that there is favoritism in staff applications.
    Keep in mind, not all staff. For example, one of the staff (clearly one that isn't biased) has agreed with this thread. So I'm not blaming all the staff.
    I still believe that the system should be fixed. You can see based on the amount of people who agree that the community for the most part agrees with my reasoning.
    But for the time being, can we please not hate on Caity?
    Oh yes, I would like it that this thread is not locked until I get a proper response addressing all of this matter from someone who has the authority to address it.
    Thank you.
     
  13. RobyNub1337

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    One problem with your huge post:

    It is already based on merrit, and if they don't hold water, they get fired again just as quickly as they got hired.

    The problem is, often times you only know part of the story, and its not your business to know the rest. Just because they have a good application does not mean that in live practice they are good at handling people.

    We care more about attitude first and foremost as a good attitude is necessary for a staff member to be any good.

    In addition to that, you are misunderstanding the purpose of applications. Applications allow us to get some insight into your thoughts and reasoning. Even knowing this fact will not help you fool us, because there are many subtle tells you cant control in your personality.

    Plus we actually check up on people before we put them up for promotion. We ask around and look for signs they may not be up to snuff.

    Yes, mods can make suggestions; but we often times reject people that mods suggest, even if 4 or more mods suggested them!

    So rest assured, the system works a lot different under the hood than you are brazenly assuming.
     
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    It's none of your business what happens in the staff section and how we decide on new helpers. If you really want to know, read the post by our head-admin RobyNub1337 which is above this post.

    As RobyNub1337 said, just because someone has a good application doesn't mean he/she will automatically be promoted. Not to mention we only have five helpers so far, there are still more to come, relax...

    In defense of PandaCaity: DWG715 has never said anything about her, and DWG715 wasn't even there when we decided that PandaCaity would become a helper. He has not influenced our decision in any way and to say that the only reason she was chosen is because she is DWG715's GF is pretty disrespectful. PandaCaity is actually doing a very good job as a helper.

    Of course the mods are going to vote for people they are familiar with, what did you expect? That's how you know if someone is actually good for the job. You thought the mods were going to vote for people they have never ever talked to before?

    I'm getting really tired of these drama threads. For god's sake, just calm down and play the game instead of making a drama over every single thing.

    To Yomc: This isn't the first time you have started a drama on the forums. We appreciate that you're trying to help the community but this isn't helping at all, and therefore we kindly request you to stop it. If you have anything to say, at least do some proper research to back up your statement instead of making false accusations. But once again, how we choose our staff is none of your business.
     
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