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Discussion in 'General Discussion / Real life stuff' started by Yzel, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Yzel

    Yzel Jess - Yzel Donator

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    Why are there still so many homophobes on J&H that don't even get warned for it?

    I just don't think it's too fair.
    I hate feeling like I'm not allowed to be who I am because "gay" is still used as an insult...
    I cried this morning after someone used gay as an insult towards me.
     
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  2. TheMint

    TheMint Former Mod+ Donator

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    Crying over it is a bit too much, I would say even childish... It's not THAT hard to ignore trolls on the internet lol.
    And these people are everywhere on the internet, it's not like J&H is a hive of homophobes.
     
  3. Yellow_Pants

    Yellow_Pants Casual gamer Donator

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    You are allowed to be who you are. Remember that people like that are a minority here.
     
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  5. Yzel

    Yzel Jess - Yzel Donator

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    It's irl too...

    Suppose so.

    I'm not too much like that...
     
  6. Senchies

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    Using gay as an insult isn't always homophobic. One of my close friends is gay and she calls me gay and a fagboi all the time. Does that mean she hates gays?

    If anyone is harassing you on J&H or using offensive language just report them.
     
  7. Gooby

    Gooby ミCutie彡 Donator

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    Using gay as a way to insult someone is always homophobic.... and the f-slur is also homophobic because people use it to degrade others...
    Saying "what are you gay?" Has a negative connotation and people do everything to deny that they are gay...which is sad...but it's because in today's society gay has become synonymous with bad and disgusting
    Which is inherently homophobic I don't care what your friend says
    Saying things that degrade gay people and make them seem bad for who they are is homophobic

    Also: if you're not gay....don't speak for gay people....don't tell us what's homophobic and what isn't. Period.
     
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  8. TheMint

    TheMint Former Mod+ Donator

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    If you're getting bullied in real life then that's a different story...
     
  9. GalaxyPuffz

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    The term "Oh that's gay" or "You're gay" etc, has been used so many times now it's basically lost all it's meaning to it. With that being said, people who say something consisting of "that's gay" mostly don't mean it and aren't homophobic.

    No reason to feel like you aren't allowed to "be who you are" because some random person uses the word gay in a 100% positive meaning. Also like it was said above, there's really no reason to be upset over it. Wherever you go, people are going to use the term, but that doesn't make everyone that says it homophobic.

    Best advice would just be to learn to grow thicker skin and deal with it.
     
  10. Saul1337

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    Well it's a personal manner, for me it doesn't mean shit. Me and my co-worker make degrading jokes in a daily basis about every group and yes it has completely lost it strength for us. For others this might not be the case, if you're a shut in person who avoids the real world then yes this can be hurtful to hear.
    But then again should we care? On a daily basis everyone can go around saying ''Kill yourself'' or use ''Cancer'' in a light tone without anyone complaining. I lived in a time where saying ''Kill yourself'' would get everyone angry with you, now it's so commonly used because it doesn't mean shit anymore.

    Also everyone is wearing that ''haha i'm not the bad person'' mask. How many people on this forum have said ''Kill yourself'' or ''Killing myself'' and then continue to rant about how bad the rest of the forum is. Everyone feels the need to justify them self in order to keep a good social status, which is dumb as fuck. Like you said, grow a thicker skin and deal with it. If you can't, go watch television programs for kids because you're a baby.

    Wouldn't we be able to say this about everything?
    ''If you're not me, don't speak for me.''
     
  11. Jakt

    Jakt Former Mod+ |questionable | Donator

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    We joke about killing ourselves, using the n word and much other, we've to accept it by now honestly. People do this because it's "fun" and not serious for them most of the time, you'll always find these people where ever you go or see. If you can't face it, the truth we people has created. That's too bad because people might make fun of you more for actually caring about these "fun" subjects. Like me as a person, I made fun of gay people each day in real life, it's a statement by now but online I don't.

    One single person cannot change this, we will make fun of those things also, JH alone isn't the only place who does this, most minecraft networks makes fun of sexuality such as being gay or lesbian so do we in real life. If you haven't noticed it you've been living under a rock.

    If you feel harassed by this feel free to report this comment and I'll remove this but, think, people make fun of sex's each day. All different social medias does this and you cried now? Like, we've had this joke about "gays" and "other sexuality's" for ages, I've accepted it by now. I'm a proud bisexual male, people call me a fag, gay, etc. I don't cry over it. I only accept their words because yes, I'm gay, but not a fag or whatever. That's only people trying to push me down and feel down. You must accept people being homophobic, and much other things otherwise you'll be stuck in your own world sorta say. In a nicer matter, accept it and move on or simpler, ignore the homophobic matter in general because if you can't take it, why care? Answer me please, I've love to know more.
     
  12. Gooby

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    I guess?
    I don't agree that we should accept people being homophobic, if someone is gonna be blatantly homophobic and then play it off as a joke I'm not okay with that. Gay people have been ostracized from society for so long and in order for that not to be a thing anymore we need to destigmatize gay people, and we need to shut down homophobia because if we allow homophobes to be public about their hatred then they will think that it is an okay thing to do and will repeatedly perform actions that are homophobic. so instead of ignoring it we need to tell people what we find insulting and they need to be willing to open their ears and listen to us, and that's the problem. When we tell people what we feel is insulting everyone gets all hot and bothered and tell us to suck it up. We don't want special treatment, just to be treated equally and not be considered bad and wrong. I think you understand this as a bi man, but I really don't think ignoring it is going to solve anything, however educating those who don't understand will do something.
    Tolerating intolerance is not the way the world should move forward.
     
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    Jakt Former Mod+ |questionable | Donator

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    But how are you suggesting actually to fix this issue? You can't educate someone how to not be homophobic, this is life, one person's opinion/feeling can't change anything even if you wished. Therefor I only mentioned we should accept it if we can't find a fix for the issue. I get your whole point though.
     
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    We educate them on how their actions can be seen as homophobic and hopefully try to open their eyes that all people are people and don't deserve to be hated for who they are.
    The old homophobic people now it's probably too late for them to accept anything else however we can teach the next generations to be more tolerant.
    We need to teach children from a young age that being gay is not some horrible thing and loving someone of the same gender isn't a big deal, I want to live in a world where gay children don't have to worry about being called 'gay' or outed and be disowned just because of who they are and who they love. There is always a solution to a problem it just make take a while to reach it but I think education is an amazing gateway to preach love and acceptance and I think that is what we need to do!
     
  15. Jakt

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    I get your point but the chances of your "dream world" isn't going to happen. We can try but a few children won't accept it and so on. Your "dream" might happen if we get together and accept it but would that ever happen? if most of us are homophobic by now it's too late. We few people that aren't we've to maybe each our own children but not others. Also being disowned might be religion topics which once again we cannot change due to people might be strong with their religion. We can't change religions but we can slowly change the whole thing about using "gay" for fun or offensive matters, but that's if we work together as one.

    I'll not reply anymore as I feel my opinion/voice has been said therefor nothing else needs to be said.
     
  16. Braixen

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    How people interpret "gay" and "fag" being said to them is different if they know the person or not.

    I call all my friends gay and yet I'm gay. I always say it in an exaggerated voice because the joke is that a gay person is using unsavorable language to shame others for being gay. But the friends I say it to aren't gay, and I am. But ofcourse, The Irony in the context isn't important. Just the fact that I'm saying it means, it's in own, seperate terms, I'm homophobic, by your logic.

    The Gay man is homophobic. If that's so, then we're going to need to redefine "homophobe"
     
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    I have heard heaps of people use racial slurs or words like "gay" I agree with you jess
     
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  18. gippy

    gippy DO IT Donator

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    wtf u shouldnt have ur own opinion and freely express it because i dont like it

    its not fair
    yeah like wtf i cantt be mhyself because gay is used as an insult like wtf thats not good
    i cried this morning because someone called me gay and that ruined my life

    lmao get over it, ur crying because someone called u gay? its someone's opinion and being against homophobia is like homophobia, is it not?
     
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    ...what
     
  20. gippy

    gippy DO IT Donator

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    holes pic i already know good movie

    anyway ur basically against something thats against something, its equal
    :shrug:
    thought i got somewhere