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  1. Kitao

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    Can you be more specific? Are you asking what makes someone Trans? Because if you are then you aren't made Trans, you are born trans. Like @ImNotOkayy said previously "A person is born trans, certain people find out later/earlier than others". There is no classification like a checklist per say, the definition of Trans is "denoting or relating to a person whose self-identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender". Which basically means that the gender you are assigned at birth be it male or female does not fit with the gender you feel on the inside/identify as. In my case the gender I was assigned at birth was male but I identify as a female. Hopefully this make it more clear for you (not sure if it will).
     
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    Just someone who identifies opposite of their given at birth. You can be on the binary or not. Someone could strongly be on the binary or strongly not on the binary. (the gender binary) Everyone's different.
     
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    Hm okay. I guess that makes sense. Well may I ask you then (and I don't say this to be rude) at what point do you think someone should be allowed to go to the bathroom of the opposite sex assigned at birth
     
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    To be honest with you I've never really put any thought into it... I'd say when they reach a certain point during their transformation where they are starting to pass as the opposite sex assigned at birth.
     
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    Okay because that's the only problem I have at the momen. Determining when a Trans should use the bathroom they identify as.
     
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    Well, Feds have said that not allowing them is breaking Title 7 in the Civil Right's Act, NC is suing Feds, and Feds are counter-suing NC. Whoever comes ontop determines the outcome of the issue.
     
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    I still don't understand how trans people can make someone feel uncomfortable... Thats like me saying a cis person makes me uncomfortable...
     
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    I don't get it either, There are just so many cis people that are thrown into the 1950s conservative atmosphere which sadly still exists today.
     
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    I am fine with transgenders but it would make me feel uncomfortable if I were going to the bathroom and some women walked in who hadn't had any changes or surgery's, and every bit of them was women on the outside and the only reason she was male was their masculine feelings inside.

    In my opinion bathrooms should be based off of your genitals not feelings. I know I sound like a real jerk, and I believe trans genders should be able to use the bathroom, but only after having sex reassignment surgery. I understand its expensive and not everyone can afford it but its the only way I have figured out to determine when a person should be allowed to change bathrooms.
     
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    All this about taking a 20 second piss lmao
     
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    I'll be honest.

    I'm not going to follow these damn rules put up. I'd identify someone who is Trans as their biological gender, and that's because of religion.

    Who, in God's name, thought it'd be great to try and make a restroom like family restrooms into a place for Transgender people? Couldn't it be easier if people went to the restroom assigned by genes, meaning if you're born male- BOOM males restroom, not how they feel about their gender?

    And a note to all those who will/might respond... don't give me any damn hate. My religion gives me these beliefs,
    This isn't my way of lashing at people.
     
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    Actually I have a better idea. I believe you should use the bathroom of the sex on your legal documents. (ie. Passport, License, etc.) These things are not to hard to change for transgenders but also hard enough so someone can't just claim to be transgender and go to the women's bathroom in their first day. I feel as though by the time you have changed your legal documents to have the sex you prefer then you are at the point where people can see you as a women not only in the inside but also on the outside. I realize now that my first proposal probably sounded very mean and I am sorry If i offended anyone. But if a transgender wouldn't mind replying to this stating their opinion, I would really appreciate it just so I can see a different view on this option.
     
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    To be perfectly honest I don't see this as a totally bad idea. The only issue I could think of there actually being is that younger transgender people may not be able to change their legal sex on legal documentations without parental permission and if their parents don't agree with them being transgender this could cause some issues. The reason I also see this as a good idea is by actually changing your legal sex on these documents it proves legitimacy and that these individuals are dedicated to transitioning. This is just my opinion so I am in no way speaking for the trans community.
     
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    This is all a question of semantics. I don't go around telling people not to say certain things because they make me uncomfortable. No one is even threatening anyone here, they're just using a word that is like another word that may or may not mean slightly the same thing.


    Trans* is just another way to say trans, just with the implication there is something to modify "trans", which is implied anyway because that's how trans is always used

    Transmen/women and trans men/women are not different because the only difference is that there is a space.

    FTM and MTF are literally just synonyms for transmale and transfemale

    Yes, but I don't see how this can be misused

    These are descriptions of the word, "trans", and the legal definitions of a trans person

    Due to requiring a psychiatrist, wouldn't it be classed as a "psychological condition" rather than a medical one? And I agree, trans has little to do with sexuality

    Synonym

    They are preferred because this is what they prefer to be called. If it was mandatory we would call them by their biology, as biology is the very thing that defines the characteristics of any being.

    The people who use these words aren't going to listen to you telling them that they are offensive. Also due to a hermaphrodite not being trans, and being an actual disorder.

    tl;dr: They are just words. Words cannot hurt you. You have a right to free speech, that cannot be limited by others and is not limited to non-offensive speech. Your responsibility is to deal with other's speech as a rational person and defend your speech against those who do not like it.
     
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