U.S. Politics.

The only important thing for me, is that he also hates SJWs, but it still doesn't cover up the fact he is incompetent.

 

Personally, if I REALLY had to choose, I think I would vote Trump as well. The Clinton's have done some shady things in the past for example Benghazi and the email scandal that's been floating around. It's really hard to trust someone like that, and that's what America needs right now, trust.

 

Sadly.

 

trump is

And
Hillary is slightly less

So I'm

 

So trump is worse than someone who laughed at a Child Rape Victim

So trump is worse than someone who had a Mentor and Friend in the KKK

So trump is worse than someone who wanted "superpredators (aka the African Americans shot by police) brought to heel like they were


Good to know you find Trump worse.

 

Am I saying she's not a mess? No.
She's a mess. But she's better than a racist homophobic mysogynist who endorses violence.
Am I saying what she did in the past was right? No
But that first one was in the 80's and her viewpoints could have changed since then.

The second one was more fairly recent but literally there's claims that trumps dad was in the KKK:

http://www.vice.com/read/all-the-ev...-fred-trumps-alleged-involvement-with-the-kkk

Yes they're not 100% sure but it was a possibility that his dad was a member.
Also I'm not defending her for supporting a KKK member b/c that's an utter mess. That was 2010.

And yes she was utterly ignorant and wrong for calling african Americans super predators, which was said in 1996.

Trump called Mexicans rapists and said he wanted to ban Muslims from entering the U.S literally THIS year.

People change, their views change and i think Hillary has changed, I'm not 100% sure she has changed that much but she definitely has changed.
All your evidence is from the past like almost 20 years ago and people change it was a different time back then.
She used to not support the LGBT+ community and now she does so that's a change.
She's not the most perfect candidate she definitely has many flaws but I'd rather have her than have mr "you're fired"
Also I literally said she was slightly less worse I didn't say she was the greatest human being to ever exist
Don't try to come for me like that
SKSKSLKSSK bye

 

Damn is this the version 2.0 of this thread?

 

I have included my counter-points in orange.
Also, message for staff, if my post is deleted, and if you plan to delete it, I am not afraid to report for abuse of power, unless there is a valid reason behind it, this has every right to exist.

 

Just saying one of the KKK leaders said he would endorce trump and trump said he would take his support. And didn't decline his endorsement.

Also yes Islam isn't a race but it's still prejudice
Against a religion so it's just as bad.

And don't be talking about how Hillary is a liar when Trump can never speak the truth.

 

I really don't care if that KKK leader endorses Trump, it does not mean anything.
If he supports Trump, he is definately more than likely jumping on a bandwagon because the only thing he heard was the word 'racist' and that is all it took for him, without context.


I have already addressed that point about 'Islam prejudice', but fine, I quote it.

"I also do not see why banning Muslims (specifically refugees) for a year would be such a bad thing.
You cannot check every single man and woman to see if they have terrorist ties if there is thousands upon thousands of them coming in, and not even mentioning Hillary wants to bring in more. The only logical thing to do is to stop Muslims from entering the U.S temporarily.
I am not sure what he plans to do with it entirely, because he could allow them to come here like every normal person by just booking a flight, and being checked to make sure they don't have terrorist ties.
It's a necessary 'evil' considering how terrorists are literally sneaking into our country, and Europe, by claiming to be refugees.".
I don't see how that is prejudice, unless I am missing something.


Your point is invalid (imo) when it comes to this point:

Double-standards.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt when you say Trump is lying, because that is an opinion that won't change in a million years, but just because Trump supposedly lies does not mean Hillary can't do the same thing either. And on a much bigger scale.

 

I think that any politics are gross so and try not to disclose any personal beliefs(y'all know how that ends), but here's an interesting story told by my good friend, misha.

Spoiler: click here

WARNING: this post contains comments on the US Presidential Race. I generally recoil when celebrities get up on their political soap boxes, so please know that that's not what i'm doing here. I'm simply making an observation about current events and doing a little arm-chair fact-checking in the process...

Ben Carson [heretofore C-Bone] has endorsed Donald Trump [heretofore "The Duck"] for the Presidency! C-Bone, you may remember, recently ended his bid for the Presidency. You may also remember C-Bone's remarkable campaign during which he displayed an incredible knack for staying horse-tranquilizer-calm while saying bat-shit crazy things. Of course his endorsement is a huge boon for The Duck.

However (and here's the fact checking portion of my comments) when C-Bone endorsed the The Duck he said:

"There are two different Donald Trumps [The Ducks]. There’s the one you see on the stage and there’s the one who’s very cerebral, sits there and considers things very carefully."

To which The Duck later responded:

"I don't think there's two Donald Trumps. I think there's one Donald Trump, but certainly, you have, look, all of this, and you have somebody else that sits and reads and thinks and I'm a thinker, and I have been a thinker. And perhaps people don't think of me that way because you don't see me in that forum, but I am a thinker," he said. "I'm a very deep thinker. I know what's happening."

Let's break this down: First, we can say with certainty that both men are dead wrong about how many Donal Trumps there are. C-Bone says there are two Donald Trumps, The Duck argues there "there's [sic] one." But a cursory search of the internet shows that there are in fact twenty men named Donald Trump in the US alone. So right away, we know neither man is doing due diligence.

Let's examine The Duck's comments a bit further. He says something that's at the very least inconsistent and perhaps an outright lie. He says (and this is the direct quote), "I know what's happening." How can he say that when every time he is asked a question on the campaign trail about say, how the pledges he solicits at his rallies resemble nazi solutes, he says, "I hadn't heard that." Or when pressed on the fact that Muslim American groups find his comments deeply disturbing he says, "I don't know anything about that." In fact, he seems to answer pretty much every question that might cast him in a negative light with, "i hadn't heard that," "i don't know anything about that," "i'm going to look into that" or some variation on the theme. The Duck can't have it both ways, either he knows what's happening or he doesn't. I wish he'd make up his mind.

He also makes a pretty radical claim about himself when responding to C-Bone's Double Duck comment--he claims that he's "a thinker," and he goes further to assert that he's "a very deep thinker." This is of course not true, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is just beat from a long campaign trail and that he was mixing up words (as we all do from time to time when we are run down). My best guess is that when he was saying, "thinker" he meant to be saying either "racist" or "xenophobe" or perhaps "misogynist" But we may never know with certainty.
(This was posted a while ago so, but I still think that it's relevant)

Also, like none of us can even vote so I don't know why y'all get so reeved up. (Yeah, because it'll effect y'all in the long run and stuff like that but hey you can't really do much about that unfortunately!) Like all politicians are messes and liars, and so are most people, thought y'all what get that by now.
I just think we should all get along and be nice to each other no matter what sexuality, race, religion, gender identity, situation, etc.

 

It's not a debate. He lies. A lot. He makes stuff up on the spot. You could definitely say Hillary's lies are worse... because she's been in important positions of power, whereas Trump has yet to be.

Bernie is not a communist.

On the flip side of the coin, the counter-points you made for @Gooby 's argument were solid. Ladies and gentlemen, all I really care about is precision.

On that note, ladies and gentlemen, cut it with the KKK bullshit. Trump did NOT clearly accept David Duke's endorsement, and Hillary is not affiliated with Robert Byrd the KKK leader, she's affiliated with Robert Byrd the FORMER KKK leader.

Also, Muslims. Of course we should scrutinize their backgrounds intensively before we let them in, but a blanket ban on Muslim immigrants is just as ignorant as a blanket ban on guns; a few is not representative of the whole. On the flip side, just "bringing more in" is equally ignorant.

Don't get me wrong, ladies and gentlemen, I think we are left with dog shit and cat shit here. I'm sitting here at my computer, dying inside, wishing Michael Bloomberg was the nominee for either party.

 

I want to make clear that I was using the term 'supposedly' because I was using it to refer to the fact that every politician lies, and the point that I was trying to make was obviously, if Trump can lie, so can Hillary.
It really depends on who lies more.
Other than that, I can agree with you.
Well, sort of, I mentioned that I did not want to debate on whether or not Bernie is a communist because I have in the past and reached a stalemate.
Now really lol, I agree with you on everything else.

 

If you mention Trump's name in Vietnam...

(It's dangerous to go alone TAKE THIS)

 

I find it funny how most of these kids are too young for it to impact them yet. They can't even cross the street on your own, and you're going to move to Canada?

 

Doesn't stop us from having an opinion, eh?

 

I have parents that are impacted by government decisions. I have been watching politics since I was nine. I have been crossing the street even before that. Of course we are not moving to Canada. It's a satirical bandwagon. You can't even get your pronouns correct in the second sentence and you're making these remarks?

 

M8, I've already moved halfway across the world.

 

Never said it did, in fact, that's my opinion right there.

I know it's a joke, and so was my statement. All I meant was the MAJORITY of kids talking about how bad Trump and Hillary are, are too young for it to impact them. Key word, majority.

Fantastic, hope it was fun.

 

I know it was a joke but just saying it is the young kids who this will affect the most. It's the upcoming generation and what trump or Clinton does in these next 4 years will change their futures and their lives forever.