Seriously I don't Understand.

Discussion in 'General Discussion / Real life stuff' started by kathrine, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. InciteFear

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    Did I not quite that correctly? Sorry I meant Isis is and radicalists not Muslims. A lot of my friends are Muslims. And yes, they are sneaking in and trying to get rid of whites. Isis admitted it.
     
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    LOLOLOL LMAO cute. I'm a Muslim and you shouldn't fucking say that. Who said we're trying to get rid of Americans? Do you not know the difference between ISIS and Muslims? You don't. I suggest you edit your post and change 'Muslims' to 'ISIS'.
     
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    Did you not see the post after that?
     
  4. ANumber2Pencil

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    Sorry but I was just wondering what you were talking about when saying this? What are you trying to hint to?
     
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  5. MC_Scout

    MC_Scout Fearless Leader Staff Member Manager

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    So many people have no clue what started ISIS.
    Im in a current events class right now, and we have been talking about ISIS and how it started. This information came from ABC news "frontline" program.
    Here is what happens
    • US leavs Iraq, Iraq is no on there own. Al Queda is more less destroyed, barley alive
    • Iraq is now a Shia lead government, as most of the population is Shia. Before this Saddam Hussein was a sunni and the leader of Iraq. Sunnis were promised a roll in the military. Keep in mind that Iraq's economy is in the crapper, the only real source of employment is the military.
    • The president of Iraq visits Obama and as this happening the VP or Iraq (Sunni) bodyguards carry out assassination attemps against Shia leaders.
    • Obama tells the Iraq president that he needs to solve this him self.
    • The VP flees Iraq, if he returns he will be executed.
    • The Iraq president now starts accusing Sunni's of being traitors. He makes them ineligible for the military (effectly they have no job now) or he systematically executed them.
    • While this happending the few remaining Al queda members come together with former soldiers from Hussein's army (Baaths). They are all battel hardened, they are the toughest they can get.
    • By now ISIS is starting to from, as an opisition to Iqaq's atack on Sunnis.
    • While this happening Syria is having issues, aslo a Shia goverment. This allows the new group to gain momentum.
    • The old members of Al Queda and the Baath come to help militarize this new group called the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
    • From there ISIS gains momentum. They are not taken seriously until they start upping the intensity, which is were we are at today.
    Whats the relevance to this?
    Its huge, its the reason why ISIS started.
    Also I dont justify what ISIS did/does/will do. But it is important to know were they came from.
     
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  6. vipa

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    If Bush didn't invade Iraq back in 2003, then Saddam Hussein would still be alive, and there wouldn't be any of this shit happening now. Some countries are better of under a dictatorship than a democracy. All of what's happening now was indirectly caused by Bush and his stupid "profit-making" war.
     
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  7. Contemptible

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    You're wrong in some cases.

    ISIS isn't about forming one true religion of Islam anymore, they're set to terrorize and make the world know that they're meant to be feared. Despite the whole Sunni and Shiite part, they've detached from those goals. Now, they're out there to claim land and make themselves appear on the global web. Currently they're trying to gain control of different countries out in the middle east, but since they're not too large of an organization, they cannot take them over yet.

    TL;DR

    They aren't in about religion anymore, they want to become their own country.


    OH, and the reason why its going global on why Paris was bombed, especially in the United States, is because Americans died. An American band was on tour there and Americans were injured or killed.


    EDIT: This is to everyone who thinks all Muslims are ISIS, you're wrong.

    Currently there are about 1.7 billion Muslims in the world, and only 0.003% are actually members of ISIS. Do the damn math and then try to prove me wrong.
     
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  8. Safoya

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    the fuck??
    im a muslim AND im American??
    im not tryna rape people or nothing.
    NONE of my family members have ever been arrested for committing any crime whatsoever
    sure my mom and dad have gotten a few tickets for speeding but that is not just a muslim thing
    my family has been in the states for the past 20+ years
    all of my siblings and myself were BORN here and RAISED here

    you'd think people would lay off for that? nah.
    people are disgusting.

    muslims and isis are two different things
    muslims are people LIKE CHRISTIANS AND JEWISH AND MORMON, and all other religions.
    we just practice something different
    we are humans with blood and brains and eyes and ears, just like everyone else
    we have no harm at all.
    sometimes we try to recruit people into islam but that's in every other religion as well??
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    isis is a shit ton of extremists. you hear that? EXTREMISTS
    not every Muslim is an extremist, there's a difference. extremists are people who are extremely obedient with religious law and try to push it upon everyone else, they think that their religion is the only correct one or is the best and hate all other religions. isis is exactly that
    they think islam is the only religion that is correct
    they are extremists

    have you guys even seen the news? isis has taken much land and what are they doing with it?
    they are putting islam full blow into it
    they're making schools where the only thing you learn is literature, math, and religion
    they're commiting homicide
    to all those who refuse to commit acts
    they seperate men and women until they are ready for marriage and that is also hard.
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    muslims don't only teach three subjects
    we live in advanced world we learn different languages and music and art and we complete physical education
    we don't separate men and women
    girls and boys go to the same school, same classes, same everything?

    yet people find it okay to accuse us of this? lol okay so if islamic people are isis and al qaeda, what do you guys think muslims will do when everyone takes it too far? they'll do the same thing, stupid shit bickering that is harmful and immature.

    there is a BIG difference between muslims and isis.
    the quran says what isis is doing is haram or not allowed so I don't even like to call these people muslims. they break the Islamic rule to present it??
     
  9. kathrine

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  10. Miner

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    Really, the people who make the news will sometimes edit them so that it doesn't tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but rather something that will be dramatic and give them ratings.
     
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  11. InciteFear

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    Did you not read my other posts? I meant ISIS not all the Muslims lol
     
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  12. Safoya

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    my bad :)
     
  13. Bilbo

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    Preach baby preach Martin Luther 2.0 right here folks you need to give a speech to the world so they understand
     
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  14. LaurentYuri

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    Uhh, that's because they're trying to limit the spread of the plague. A near-100% mortality plague already affecting an entire continent arriving to other continents is an entirely different story.

    You know why the ISIS attack on Paris appears to have more impact on news agencies than what happened to Japan and Turkey? Simple... if a well-known terrorist group that has been gaining power over the last few months conducts a very successful operation against a powerful country like France, then it takes no thinking that it can do the same thing to other members of G8. This is not to support the sentiment that you've been ranting against. I'm simply stating why it happens. If ISIS chose to kill 100 people in my place and another 100 in, say, London, London's attacks would be covered more than Manila's simply because an attack on a very secure country is more horrifying than one on a smuggling capital. Attacks on weak fortresses are dwarfed by attacks on the strong ones.

    It doesn't necessarily mean we're forgetting other things. It's merely a subject of priority.
    "But we should also prioritize others-"
    Hey, I just said something about that. That... is reality.

    EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I really think the UN is very close to labeling the ISIS as 'international terrorists'. Why is it important? Hehe. The UN Security Council would be authorized to utterly obliterate the ISIS. That good news for ya?
     
  15. GYPTIAN

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    I was about to read then i gave up just a simple fact #Pray4TheWorld then no problem eyyy solved.

    And about the muslim thing, pfft come on how stupid can people be to think all of an religion are terrorists. That is like me saying all of the KKK were Christians and they should all get the blame because a group of people pretend to be in that religion but i know for a fact that anyone that agrees with violence, rape, hate on another skin colour or sex is NOT part of any type of religion.
     
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  16. Burrito

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    I'm a Muslim and I can gladly tell you that if all 1.4billion Muslims were terrorists, none of ya'll be alive right now.
     
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  17. SinisterBucky

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    Sure, France wasn't the nicest ally in the early 2000s, but do you realize what you're proposing? It's essentially holding a grudge. It's a childish behavior I got out of years ago. We can't defeat ISIS with grudges that we hold against the other developed nations at major international conferences. I am atheist and liberal, by the way, if you are wondering about my POV.

    P.S. Did ANYONE actually know about the Mali attacks during this discussion? If not, smh.
     
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  18. Burrito

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    I agree, but how about the hundreds of innocent children and people that die EVERYDAY in Palestine?
     
  19. GYPTIAN

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    No one likes ISIS so they are all working together to destroy these scum once and for all.
     
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  20. SinisterBucky

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    Yes, almost everybody wants to get rid of ISIS. However, the developed nations that can actually intervene in foreign affairs DO NOT HAVE CONSENSUS as to how to deal with ISIS.

    Sincerely,
    A daily New York Times reader