Seriously I don't Understand.

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  1. kathrine

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    Im sorry but I just need to rant about this.
    Everyone is all about Paris, not that I don't take these situations seriously, but other life threatening events have been occurring all over the world. #Pray4Paris or #PrayForParis I think is way out of mind. I certainly agree we should keep them in our prayers. However, I think that the other event that are occurring right this second or that have happened recently should be taken more serious then rather forgotten about. How about Japan? The earthquake killing innocent people and injuring dozens. Why have we forgotten about this? Also not to mention in about (middle) October the Turkey peace rally bombing that ISIS had a major part in. The bombing of Turkey killed more than 100 people. And ten+ attacks since then, leading up to the current date.

    Stepping onto another subject, some people from my school and or out of school have been disrespecting muslims. They don't realize that being a muslim has nothing to do with Isis. Yes, SOME muslims are ISIS, but that doesn't mean every muslim is a role in ISIS. Also, some small parts of ISIS aren't even muslims, some are caucasian, chinese, and so on. I personally don't think people need to be put down for their race. This has nothing to do with religion people. Honestly, everyone who thinks just because someone is different from all the rest of us just because of some people, really need to research. Speaking of researching I found a pretty good website to start off at. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html?_r=0


    Okay, adding on to what I have stated above. Seriously we need to really understand what is happening here. I understand that yes, we are allies with FRANCE however, that doesnt mean we can just forget about every other thing happening. They need our support too. Turkey, Japan etc. Also, know that we are getting threats here now in America, people who didnt care about the situations before should really start to care now. I seriously don't like how people can just not care about other places besides our allies, then when we get threats we act like it is the end of the world and we expect everyone to have our backs. I mean I am going to say it now. If we AS A COUNTRY don't support others then they wont to the same for us when we are in need. It is called the Golden Rule. Something we should all be familiar with.

    Also as a statement as of one commenter has mentioned, MUSLIMS are NOT sneaking into the United States and raping white women. That is racist and should not be spoken about if it isn't true, or maybe not at ALL. Sure it is your opinion, but if it has anything to do with rape (which is also off topic) should not EVER be mentioned on the forums. And yes, I have seen the news, and I most clearly understand the current situation way may then you.

    NOTICE: if you don't have anything nice or on topic to say then don't say it at all.

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    I am surely glad to see this thread exploding with conversation. Everything y'all have too say is very helpful.

    (I will be editing this thread as time goes on too keep others updated with the current massacres.)
     
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  2. X__Ninja__X

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    I absolutely hate when people refer to the ISIS as all Muslims. I mean just because a terriost group is from a certain place doesn't mean everyone from that place is bad.
     
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    Hours before the carnage in Paris on Friday, a double suicide bombing ripped through a working-class shopping district in Beirut. ISIS claimed responsibility for the explosions, which caused 43 deaths and hundreds of casualties in the worst bombing to strike the city in a quarter century. Then came ISIS’s attacks in France, which quickly subsumed much of the attention that might have been directed toward Lebanon.

    It’s become a predictable pattern: One act of violence in the world overshadows a similar, concurrent violent act, inviting a backlash against this imbalance in scrutiny, sympathy, and grief. But that predictability doesn’t make the pattern any less distressing. Each time there’s a major terror attack in an American or European city—New York, Madrid, London, Paris, Paris again—it captures the attention and concern of Americans and Europeans in a way that similar atrocities elsewhere don’t seem to do. Seldom do events line up so neatly, offering a clear comparison, as the bombings in Beirut and the rampage in Paris.
     
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  4. Braixen

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    People need to learn about Muslims. There are 2 subcultures to it. There's Sunni(Soon-E) and Shia(She-uh). ISIS is a group of Sunni extremists, and use the idea of genecide on Shia(which in their mind, would create a pure form of Islam) to wage war on the west. They still really hate Shias, though. Hell, as far as I can tell, the only countries ISIS hates more than the western civilizations is Iran and Lebanon, in which both are Majorly Shia.

    But in reality, we are all in danger from ISIS. They are barbarians, given and taught how to use bombs and guns to hit below the belt, and even when all the Shias are dead, ISIS will still want to kill. They will want to kill to kill, not to make the whole world Islam. That's a terrible misconception by many.
     
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    2-3 days ago, I got a kid suspended for saying he hates islam/muslims (which I am a muslim) and that I will apparently blow up the world. smh. I'm glad people understand like you, paris: only 150 died (may those who died rest in peace), japan lost 18,000 people but no one ever said Prayforjapan, or whatever. The world needs to know the difference of ISIS and muslims.
     
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  6. vipa

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    Being in India for sometime enabled me turn learn about the diversity and culture Muslims have. Their religion is very similar to Judaism and Christianity. I, for one, know that ISIS is just a group of radicals who want to kill anyone who opposes them, much like Hitler.


    More than two subcultures. Trust me, I know a bunch of Muslims.
     
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    Ah, my bad. Although as far as I can tell, Sunni is the largest and most significant of all the subcultures, and Shia being the 2nd.
     
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  8. CaptainJackValdy

    CaptainJackValdy I got a plan to save the server, just have faith

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    Same shit with Ebola.
    Ebola existed a shit ton of time in AFRICA
    BUT
    Once ONE FUCKING PERSON with Ebola arrived to Europe.
    END OF THE FUCKING WORLD!!!!

    Yes people died in Paris, but hey!
    THERES MORE THAN JUST PARIS!!!

    I mean, all the people dying in Africa etc.
    Does anyone give a fuck?
    Nope! (I don't mean to say that you don't, I mean to say that it's less mentioned)


    And about Muslims
    Bruh... Well, next time you see a German,
    Screw over him too... What? You don't wanna?
    But hey! And what about World War II?
    Ooooh, they had nothing to do with it.
    And other Muslims definitely had shit to do
    With those explosions.

    Gawd, some people logic doe.
     
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  9. Spikegold

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    The genocide of Shia Muslims is just their excuse. Look at this map.

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    The orange area on that map is roughly the area ISIS/ISIL has control over. The area of Iraq south east to that fat red line I've drawn on, is where the Shia population in Iraq are/live. The things on the map that look like pylons are oil wells/rigs.

    Notice how ISIS/ISIL aren't near/spreading to the Shia area?

    Do you also notice that they have control/are taking control over areas with oil?

    ISIS doesn't care about religion. Their main goals are wealth and control.

    Terrorists have no religion.
     
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  10. Pugnata

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    I feel as of the world focusses too mich around america and europe, also with history: I learn about dutch and american history... Hasnt anything happend in asia for example? People don't know better than care about europe and america and almost not about others. people die, sometimes in an horrible way, but you need to remember about others.

    Muslims, why are they threaded different? They are people who follow their religion and are absolutely not related to isis.
     
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  11. SellZy

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    I'm muslim, and I'm proud.

    Okay. You're probably like, wtf. People call Muslims terrorists. Why? Because of people who act like Muslims to make us become "Terrorists". You know, every single day now, I'm getting called a terrorist in real life. Why? Because I'm Muslim. But I'm proud.

    As the Quran says: You're NOT allowed to have someone's death on your name. Which means that you're not allowed to kill anyone.
    But what is IS doing? They're killing people, every religion, muslim or not, black or white, they don't care. All they want is control. They act like Muslims so other people can help them with attacking muslim countries. How would people think that they're Muslim? Just because they says "Allahu-akbar", or that they have Arabic symbols on their flag? Look, they're not the "Islamic-State", they're people pretending to be Muslims so people will attack us. When they've even killed many Muslims. They've attacked a lot of them. But you know, the media doesn't give two shit, they just want money.

    Muslims people, are not terrorists. Terrorism isn't a religion.
     
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    Finally. Finally someone that can actually respect muslims and actually say the truth.

    Not all of us muslims are ISIS or Al-Qaeda members. I am muslim, and I have fought through people saying that I am an ISIS member. All they want is power and control. But around 1 billion of us do not deserve to be called this, nor none of us would want to kill or conquer others.
     
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  13. ANumber2Pencil

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    I see what you are going for but all of you need to realize that the Paris Attacks were a MUCH bigger problem and affected MANY more people then any other recent event. Now I'm not saying that it killed more people but it had a much greater affect on people. This is because unlike the past attacks France is a very close ally to the US and is a very influential country in the world with a lot more power/allies then the previously attacked middle-eastern countries. Paris was letting refugees from Syria and the middle east into the country for help and this is what allowed for the terrorist to sneak in and kill these people. These events prove to America and other countries that they are not safe and should expect ISIS to try and attack them. In fact ISIS said that there was going to be an attack soon in D.C. Also Japan was affected by an earth quake which is a terrible thing but is also just a freak of nature. There is no way we can stop earth quakes from happening. However the paris attacks could have easily been avoided and future attacks can be stopped.

    As for the other events, they were not forgotten? The night of the Paris attacks twitter's most popular hashtags were #prayforparis #prayforjapan #prayforbeirut #prayformexico, etc. We are not forgetting the other countries but we are just prioritizing the ones that matter most.
     
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    Idk if this is pointed out or not but Islam is not a race its a religion. You can be Chinese and be Muslim. And everyone in Islamic state of Iraq and Syria (thats what ISIS stands for) is most likely a Muslim.
    ISIS is radical Islam, its the 1% of the region that makes the 99% a living hell for the rest. People don't realize but there is radical Christan groups to, (its called the Lords Resistance Army). Now Im not a radical, violent person that kills people in the name of God do I? No. Most people are no diffrent.
    I have no tolerance for extreme ignorance, especially people who hate muslims because of 9/11, that makes me facepalm everytime I hear that.
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    Anyway the reason why Paris makes the news is because of the fear. You see an earthquake comes when it damn well pleases, and we cant do anything about it, unfortunately. However with ISIS they will strike again, and we can do something about it.
     
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  15. KrisKrikken

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    Firstly, it can be explained with the fact that Western media concerns decide what we get to see, and what not. Luckily, some people are not so stupid to believe everything they see, but there are sooo many ignorant people, brainwashed by discriminating, subjective points of view, which they automatically consider true.

    Also, an explanation for using #Pray4Paris instead of #Pray4[X] is because we can relate to Paris more than we can to Beirut, Nigeria or Kenia. We can all deny it, but it is true that the further away an attack is, the less scared we are. With the attacks being in Paris, we feel threatened because it is not longer a 'Middle Eastern war'.

    With these attacks, the terrorist groups create exactly what they want; fear. They want us to not attend large scale events and they want groups of people to differ from each other in terms of opinions and beliefs so that the society turns into a mess. Why? Because in a strong society it is hard to actually do what you want to do, and when terrorist groups can they do what they want, they get rich; they will sell women, drugs, weapons, etc.

    Therefore it is so important not to be feared by these groups of scum that call themselves fighters for religion. I do not believe that any religion encourages beheadings, torture and war. People who use religion as an excuse for violent do not deserve a place in our thoughts.


    I think you need to get your facts straight because the attacks were not committed by Syrian refugees, but by radicalised Europeans.
     
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  16. ANumber2Pencil

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    I do? And they weren't real Syrian refugees but Isis members pretending to be refugees. France was letting in large amounts of people to help them but this created its border security to weaken, making it easier for terrorist to sneak in. This is why in america a lot of debate has occurred on whether or not america should let refugees into the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...attacks-france-belgium-security-services.html
     
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  17. KrisKrikken

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    Ahh okay, misunderstood what you said, then :)
     
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    I wish this would all just end.
     
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    I agree with what you're saying but seriously apparently you haven't seen the news. Muslims are trying to get rid of all Americans and start a new race. They are raping white women and sneaking into America. Every country is declining new refugees because ISIS members are sneaking in disguising as refugees. But guess who is accepting refugees? Obama. Even knowing the risk. All the country leaders met up and had a moment of silence for the people of Paris. And guess what. Obama arrived late after the moment of silence. It seems like he doesn't even care. That's why the tensions are high. But I still totally agree with what you're saying. Muslims aren't Isis but some are that's what gets me nervous.
     
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    EXCUSE ME?!
    No. I'm a Muslim, and like Sellz, I take pride in that. We don't rape white women, we don't sneak into America, and we don't start new races because we want to. We are people like you, your friends and everyone else you know. Just because we believe in a different religion means nothing. All the news broadcasters want is just money and ratings. It's world media 101.

    Going back on-topic, it's seriously true. The media just wants people to believe that because some of ISIS is Muslim, then everyone that's Muslim is ISIS. If you don't understand, let's put it this way. If people in ISIS are Muslim, then that means a Muslim is in ISIS. This is not the case. If people talk about terrorism and bombings, they joke about me being a bomber and such. Sometimes it's funny as it's taken in a lighthearted matter, other times it's literal death threats against me because I believe in something that a terrorist group believes in. It's a seriously serious topic. With world media making it seem like every Muslim is bound to be a terrorist, only the logical and informed people are going to know that not every Muslim is a terrorist.

    It's really sad. I believed in our world, but it seems that everyone just wants to get good ratings for money.
     
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