World Affairs- Iran Deal

What are some of your opinions on the Nuclear Iran deal? Do you think it is a good or bad idea.

 

I'm neutral about it

 

Well that is a way nicer way than I would have put it.

 

LIke Ben said, People are overreacting and exaggerating the fact that they will bring america to its doom, but I mean Iraq supports organizations that we consider terrorist organizations, so I mean I wouldn't feel safe if they had a nuke..

 

Meh. I feel like it doesn't benefit the U.S. that much, so it was kind of unnecessary. I don't think that Iran is about to send an ICBM to either us or Israel (which would end the world), but I don't feel like the deal benefited us in nearly a proportional way. Like unsaid, unnecessary.
It's kinda like how North Korea has nukes. Even they aren't foolish enough to use them.

Anywho, I'd love to bring a resident of Iran like @Xad into this thread, I'm sure the opinions of those in the country would be intriguing

 

I swear Xad lives in Saudi Arabia...?

Anyway, being an Iranian and having been there quite a few times, I can tell you that almost the whole population have no association to the nuclear program. The main reason they seem to behave this way towards the west is that they feel that they're trying to suppress their rights, even on a matter like nuclear material.

I'm quite happy for Iran because now it means that all the inflation will be gone. The currency used to have one of the lowest values in the world ($1 USD translates to about 3000 تومان).

I'd appreciate it if you didn't refer to us as "maniacs"...

 

Me too, except I don't live in iran

 

Don't worry, I didn't take any offense. It's just that you said "maniacs", which obviously refers to more than one person, and the general population was the obvious assumption. I apologise on my part too :).

Yes, Khamenei is not exactly the person I'd call moderate. He is literally an Islamic Hitler (aside from the physical features).

Also, he's the 'Supreme Leader', which is just the hardliners' way of saying he has the most authority in the country.

 

To be honest, I am not sure were to consequences will end up.

 

Im pretty sure they have these people that inspect these nuclear factories, which was part of the deal, so its pratically impossible... If im wrong, sorry, Im not really focusing on this topic.

 

Nuclear power and nuclear missiles are very different things. A missile works on different reactions than a power plant.

The United States is beginning to find more and more oil wells in Alaska. They are also gaining more technology to drill deeper into formerly drained wells.
If the United States oil output continues at this rate of growth, it will be one of the largest oil producers behind Iraq and Kuwait.

 

Recently, Obama went on live and gave a speech about the Iran deal. I didn't watch the entire thing as my Tv speakers in my room where acting like a piece of crap and so I had to stream it on my computer via. Fox News. The Iran deal to me, is a little scary. What I think will have is I think we will be going to war soon, as Iran will possibly bomb one of our allies (E.G. Israel) and we will end up going to war anyway. One thing I agree with from the speech is how we will either face diplomacy or war. If Iran takes this deal in the right way, then we will have piece. If Iran abuses it, then we will have war. Oh well, there is nothing really I can do about it however. :/

 

War is extremely unlikely because it's not like back in the 1930s. The UN will do everything possible to prevent war.

 

I can't really argue with your sentiments as you are entitled to your opinion, however I would like to express mine.

The UN will do everything they possibly can to prevent war, however they will possibly not succeed. That's just what I think apparently, I have nothing against a conflict between the two of us.

 

I love how people just assume that it was only America v. Iran. It was America +6 v. the UN. We basically bought oil without paying for it, which is freezing their assets, and then put sanctions up, along with 6 other countries in the U.N. Not to mention if they do not cooperate or if the U.N. find any active weapons/nuclear facilities, the deal is over, and we go back to bombing them. Now is Iran to be trusted? No, that's why we took the risk for this deal, so we atleast have a bit of assurance that we won't get nuked by Iran.

Also, I don't understand why people exxagerate the dangers of other countries. I mean, lets put the U.S. in terms with things people see as dangerous:
#1 International Guns Merchants = US
First person to make a Nuclear War Head = US
First people to use a Nuclear War Head = US
Most Major & Minor Wars = US

We are so violent compared to so many people. Now am I saying that others aren't dangerous? No, but compared to the U.S., they are basically a shard of glass. Unlike us, the flying chain saw.

 

The U.N. when have they ever prevented a conflict.

The fact of the matter is, the deal is to lenient, especially with Iran who is known not to abide by treaties.

 

I wasn't referring to the U.N., I was referring to the sentiments of Unit and myself when I said conflict.

 

As I see it, there are 2 ways to strengthen this deal.
1: Make the punishment for not abiding harsher
2: Make our side of the deal harsher.

If we did 1, then Iran would be too scared to pull off the deal and would probably say to themselves:
"Don't trust the U.S., they will steal your money, put trade sanctions on you, make you end your nuclear energy program and weapons program, then attack you when you go near the edge of what's accepted". It may not seem like it, but I promise you, they probably would've said that to themselves.

If we did 2, then Iran would be smart and just not take the deal. If we added those jailed americans into the deal, then Iran has some power and an incentive to add what they want in the deal. Anything like "You only get half the sanctions lifted" or "You cant work on Nuclear energy at all" would be so harsh, and Iran wouldn't take the deal.

So, I agree with you, it is very lenient, but if we go any harsher then Iran might not take the deal and nothing gets solved. The U.N. wouldn't be happy because(as they see it) an enemy has nukes and is dangerous, and Iran won't like it because they will keep getting bombed and attacked.