So, I've heard about how people in the United States aren't very happy about the flag. I haven't looked into it much, but from what i've heard it's getting to be a kinda big deal. So yah, what do you think about it?
Which flag... A shame that I have to ask that question, but now people are making a deal of the United States flag...
I'm not southern butttt I've heard people were crying about the confederate flag being taken down And I think thats ridiculous like we're a union We're not fighting the civil war anymore Why are you upset??????? & if this isn't about the confederate flag then idk what you're talking about
The fact of the matter is, some of the flags that people are complaining about, aren't even the true "Confederate" flag.
There's no such thing as a "not true" Confederate flag. That's like saying that if a swastika is on a white background instead of a red background, it isn't a "true" swastika and it's perfectly fine for Germany to use it as their flag again.
In that instance, with all due respect, why don't we go ahead then and ban all things that had anything to do with the Civil War?
Oh, make no mistake. When used in the proper place, the Confederate Flag shows history. In something like a Civil War game, it has a place (why Apple why). But flying it near a government building as a statement about the state itself is inaccurate. It portrays the state incorrectly. There is no longer a "Confederate States of America." Putting it up near a government building poorly represents the country. And, just like how the swastika has become a representation of the Haulocaust, the Confederate Flag represents Southern ideals that largely based themselves off of slavery. Yes, I agree that there were sectionalism matters there too, but in their secessions, the southern states clearly declared the refusal of the North to cooperate with Fugitive Slave Laws as a reason for their secession. One way or another, the flag represents it.
Let's just say this was the LGBT flag flying though, many individuals in the United States are still against that, but if that was to be taken down, the liberal media would make an outrage.
Can we take this down too it offends me Honestly, comparing the swastika to the confederate flag is not the best way to do it. I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate from this but I don't see the big reason in taking it down other than people saying it's racist. Ironically, the redskins flag had the same debate on whether they should rename the team or not. Asides that, the confederate flag did not just symbolize racism, it also symbolized what the confederates believed in and they did not just believe in slavery. Something thats even more stupid, is their renaming my highway from "Jefferson Davis highway" to something else. Some people even say we should dig up the soldiers of the confederates and burn them. Am I saying I agree with racism and slavery? Hell to the no. I'm just saying that the confederate didn't just symbolize slavery. That's just how I really see it.
The Confederate flag was meant to show racism. Southern conservatives & white supremacists are the main users. I understand the whole 'We remember' and all that as @GroundBoy said, but then why not make a new group to support modern southern pride itself instead of using a flag infamous for representing slavery & racism? It just doesn't make sense to even a southerner like myself.
The soldiers were fighting for a cause, but you can't say whether the soldiers were good or evil. There's a certain respect that goes towards human beings - you can't just dig them up because of what happened and burn them. However, the Confederacy may have symbolized a few other things besides slavery, but it still symbolized slavery nonetheless. Yes, there were other causes for secession, all of those "states rights" that they claimed revolved around matters set by the Compromise of 1850 - a compromise that directly concerned slavery. The preservation of slavery was the main cause for which the Confederacy existed, and the main ideal symbolized in their flag. How is this different from Nazi Germany - a regime marking itself different from others with an economy and cause based entirely on racism? The similarities are striking. The LGBT flag does not represent oppression of a specific group. The Confederate Flag, through its ideals that I listed, does.
True, they're similar, but I still wouldn't consider those associated with the Confederate flag in the same level as Nazi Germany. I'm trying to be objective over here, I haven't studied American history for a long while. The flag we're talking about is mostly associated with white supremacy and slavery. The Nazis believed in Aryan supremacy and "cleansing" the Fatherland. The Nazis are worse - they also wanted to conquer other countries in response to their humiliation in WWI and to enforce their cleansing beliefs. Their atrocities were beyond genocide and manslaughter, and I don't recall the Confederacy doing anything that can surpass the evils done by Nazi Germany.
Oh, make no mistake, the atrocities committed by Nazi Germany were far worse than those committed by the Confederacy. That being said, it doesn't excuse the actions taken by the Confederacy. The comparison is relative. Both were regimes that had the majority of their ideals based around oppression of a specific group. The Nazis may have been more extreme in their methods, but though that may be the case, the comparison as a relative method still stands.
I never said it excuses the Confederacy's malicious acts, I only said I wouldn't compare two evils if one is significantly greater than the other. We both acknowledge their similar beliefs, but if you look at statistics, the Confederacy does not deserve to be compared with the Third Reich. Oh, and the thread has been derailed enough, so I wouldn't be encouraging any more additions here.
you gotta realize, the confederate flag means much more than just slavery and civil war. people are mad about it being "outlawed" because it represented a "union" of those southern states and allowed people to have an identity. May sound crazy but its alot like the swastika. Yes it ment somthing bad Confederate- Slavery Swastika- Anti semtisim But deep down theres a whole larger meaning. like the swastika was a hindu symbol for "Love & peace" So taking away the confederate flag because it "promoted racism" like..hat 100 years ago? is a very stupid idea.
I don't mind it if they do or don't take it down, but the fact that the they're banning things like Dukes of Hazzard because of it
