Someone Has to Say It

I could personally give a list to help you guys with that.

 

It's opinion time:

Do you want to know what I truly hate about people posting their opinions? It's the harshness of their sentiments which make me mad. I don't like it when people say their opinions towards someone else in a very harsh way, it makes me mad. lol

It is a big problem, though there really is no way around it. As much as people hate it, there is really no way they can control wether or not somebody does it. In the end, there will be consequences to their actions just like how there is a consequence to everything we do, be it good or bad.

I do agree with you, this is truly something we should work on.

That is what I tried telling everyone, but apparently nobody listens to me. lol

I get the same feeling all the time. I don't like getting warned, but I also don't like getting irritated. If others and I hold in our problems, we will eventually get angry at them which may lead to problems. This is why on this server, expressing our feelings should be allowed as long as there isn't any umbrage involved in them.

Yes I agree, there are a lot of rude people on these forums however, this is also something that also has no way around.

Other than that, well said Joseph. I was thinking about making something similar to this but again, I don't like getting warned so I decided not to do it.

 

Just an update. I mean everything I said in this thread, but I want to clarify some things.

1. I never said that I want everyone to be perfect.
2. I also never said someone couldn't have an opinion.
3. Also, this thread was made to help the community so can some people stop taking this out of context. This was not made for attention, this was made to help the server.

Also, I don't want anyone to hate me for this. I love all the community and I never once said anywhere in this thread that I hated anyone. Please do not judge me solely off of this thread. I am usually a pretty nice person to most people. I feel really bad but happy at the same time for making this thread. Certain people have contacted and called me today telling me their opinions on this thread, but there were a few that were offended and even upsetted by this thread. I am very sorry that I upsetted anyone. I knew this thread would get attention, but I never made it to hurt anyone. This thread was to talk about issues that I thought were worthy of being talked about and even though I didn't mention any names in my thread, it was obvious to some on who I was referring to in this thread. I'm sorry to anyone that was offended by this thread, I just wanted to help and state my opinions regarding the forums/server.

 

Warning: Comment will not reflect the typical stiff and dainty staff member attitude :)

(Ready for the hypocrisy)
Want to know something? Making paragraph length comments all the time don't make you look cool, smart or respectable. It makes me want to skip your comment and basically the whole thread. However, paragraph length responses are fine to an extent, considering they don't repeat the same thing we've heard over and over before.

Want to know why this community sucks? The same reasons Joseph said. But what did Joseph not mention?

Oh yea, wannabes. People that want to be staff or be like staff/and or former staff. People that try to be like Dao and type paragraph responses with TLDR or whatever that is bothers me. If you need a TLDR, then Just use that as your comment. Is it just me or do most TLDRs have nothing to do with the comment itself?

People that come in this community wanting to be staff anger me when they act a certain way. Constant "please lock" or repeating what others have said in help threads. It's annoying as heck, and I've managed to lay off it lately and just let it go on.

Something I brought up with staff before is censorship. Everybody here is offended way too easily. Someone says you're fat, and then you're up in flames spamming the report button. It's the internet people. You're going to get "insulted" by trolls who's words mean nothing, and therefore they should be disregarded.

People care too much about what people think about them. Yea, I get it. You're trying to look good to get staff, so it's justifiable. However, being artificial and getting all panicky will just lower your chances. We see right through it, so just be your gosh darn normal selves. You're on a Minecraft server to have fun, not try to fake who you are and worry about it. Isn't that what most of you are trying to get away from in real life: the pressure of being someone that you're not, trouble being social, trouble making friends?
Staff means something, but it's not worth giving up your internet freedom. You can be nice and normal without the constant uptightness that goes around here.

Ok, now for some more about repetition

IMO
Not to be rude or anything, but you all repeated the exact same thing. 4 times is more than enough, and we have heard the same thing from parents, teachers, and others throughout our lives. How does this benefit anyone? The irrelevant information in threads based on discussion is too dang high, and that leads to the assumptions and the morphing of words as people did to Joseph on this thread. Just stop being wordy and read all the comments before you make your own.


About God Items and other rules..... God items were so annoying because there were so many people messaging mods over and over on creative to tp. It's like this.

YO TP GOD ITEMS M8

-tpo, and finds god items- -tries to go back and do more mod related things-

YO TP GOD ITEMS AGAIN O YEA DRAGON EGGS TOO m999!!1!

Nothing got done, and it was a COMPLETE waste of time. They are now discouraged, which basically means to not report it or to just not give one iota if you see any.

There are so many issues with the rules that according to them, we can still kill people in Minefighter without punishment. Things definitely need to be straightened out.

About Staff not being on the same page as Harry mentioned above....... We got a few new helpers and new mods over the past two months, and the last month has been chaotic due to exams. No one has been on consistently, and people tend to solve problems by themselves. Not every staff member is on at the same time as the rest, so communication with everyone is lacking. Decisions go down during different time zones, and the people coming on in the later zones may not understand it. No one acts as a team because no one is on too much with others anymore due to exams. Yes, there are times where staff get together (figuratively) to compare thoughts and suggest methods. We haven't done one of those things since like January. Ofc no one is on the same page.

Summer is time that we must fix the issues with the server. May the future be bright.

 

Well, stated. This is my favorite post on the thread, just because you stated everything so well.

 

100% agree with everything you said.

 

Alright alright alright.
Let's do this.

First up, we have the issue of fun being sucked out due to the community.
And occasionally, I would agree.

But.
This server was a LOT worse.
Sure, when the server community got down to its lowest, I, myself, were having tons of fun, but, not everyone was.
The community is a lot better.
Not perfect, but better.
I'm not sure if you were here and very active when the community was a lot worse, or whatnot, but it was.

But, from that, you say YOU dislike what people say.
Well, maybe you aren't the boss of everything.
If 99% of people like one thing, but one person doesn't like it, will it change?
It isn't fair just because one person doesn't like something everything relating has to change.
If you don't like it, report it.

Attention seekers.

This, is a two sided thing.
Yes, I agree with some of that.
Perhaps we don't need to know you are feeling ignored.
We don't need to know you are gone for 2 days.
We don't need to have profiles spammed.
BUT.
There is a line.
If you word it right, explain it right, allsorts, feeling ignored threads aren't always attention seeking, yet it is hard. In a way, everyone is an attention seeker. Did you not post this thread to gain attention?
If you are legitimately leaving, for extended time, make a thread. Not for 2 days. It's barely anything, at that.
Depending on how you spam the profiles, it can go either ways. I don't care as long as it isn't harassment or hurtful comments. Spam me. I will respond to what I can.

Rules of the server.

Relating to the staff punishment system, yes, I agree to some extent. I personally warn for things, that another staff has previously vwarned for. And that's because unlike the other staff, I was told to do that.
We don't have a set rules for warning, and I would personally like to see something come out that makes everything clear.
But.
God items.
Yes, it was removed (the rule) but thinking about it, well, it is understandable.
No one can make god items anymore.
The ones that are left, don't harm anyone.
Speed/crashing ones are gone.
Dragon eggs can be removed (on plots) by ANYONE.

So apart from the punishment system, there isn't anything we can fix, because there isn't anything wrong.

Fear of posting due to warnings.

This, I don't understand.
I have NEVER been afraid of posting anything.
Yes, you may get warned, but, warnings don't really do anything except give fun stories for later and perhaps ban times if you get too many.
Don't be afraid.
This is a forum, where we DISCUSS things. If you can't state your opinion, then why make this a forum?
The server isn't messed up, you're just wanting a clean slate on your profile. Have a little fun, make threads without feeling like you'll get warned. Because, in the long run, you probably won't.

Players/Staff feeling like they're 'special'.

This, out of everything you post, is the most untrue.
I have yet to come across ANYONE, who feels more special than anyone here.
There is a difference between being more influential, more powerful, etc, than feeling more special.
I have no idea if it's just you seeing people differently, or what, but I honestly don't see this problem.
And to be honest, is it truly a problem?
Is it truly a problem to go 'I'm in a nice community, got tons of friends, finally hit - likes and - posts, I feel special'?

Regarding staff part and ending of Staff feeling 'special'.

Alright, this shall be a fun one to tackle.
Let's do the easy one first, shall we?

Yes, there are staff who aren't entirely active on the server, and most of us know that.
But, there are usually not only reasons for that, but also, you don't see all the staff.
I can assure you, to the average American, I seem like a very inactive staff member, because I don't appear online during that time often.
And from all staff that I see, all of them, when doing their jobs, do it properly, so perhaps reports you have made haven't been solved the way you want them to, or people aren't always being reported, but as I see, the staff team are doing a good job, especially in Exam season.

I have no idea what you see, but the staff right now, very few of them are like how you described it, and they know that.
When I talk to staff, they are usually very funny, always cracking jokes or having a decent conversation.
But, they are able to switch to mature quickly, if needed.

Regarding myself.
Really.
If anyone, ANYONE, has any problem with how I work as a staff, tell me.
Via skype, inbox, however you would like it.
Don't be afraid to, because I can only change if you tell me how.
I can change, I may not. It depends on how you want me to.
In the end, this is our community. Not mine, not yours, everyone's. You guys know what works and what doesn't, if it doesn't, let someone know, either the staff member or someone who can change that.


All in all, Joseph, no offense, but you seem to get offended waaay too easily, and seem to go 'if I don't like it, it needs to change', which is what this screams, to ME. Perhaps not to everyone, but this is what I see, and maybe you may want to look at that next time you do something like this.

A quick reminder that this is what I see, so maybe I am blind or am able to see more than you can. It just depends on the situation, I suppose.

 

This is what I mean, the second I post my oppinion, someone thinks they can outsmart me. It's not fun because it makes a lot of people feel left out because their oppinion is different to others.

Oh, I knew a few

 

If you read the replies you will see that most people agree with the points Joseph has made.
Its not just him or only 1% off people that agree.
Also saying "maybe you aren't the boss of everything" really isn't necessary imo its kind of condescending.

Okay.
I can't seem to understand why you're being so hostile towards Joseph.
I'm sure you don't mean it that way but when I read some of the things that I quoted, I can't help but sense the hostile and demeaning tone you are using.
Also Joseph specifically said he didn't do this for attention.
And Saying "no offense" doesn't make it any less offensive.

 

The attention part.
No one makes a thread and expects it to get ignored, do they?
Perhaps he didn't want attention on himself, but he still wanted attention.

The points part.
This is the first in a long time I've seen anyone complain about things on the server, and of course people will agree. But, it's taken this time to get someone posting about this, that people obviously don't care. This community is funny like that, they either agree or don't care enough to bring it up.

That last part, was directed at Joseph, because that's what I see. I didn't say it to make him feel bad, I said it because that's something that should be pointed out as seen. I know for a fact I wouldn't like it if no one told me I was coming across as a negative way.

And off that, I apologise to anyone if my response above is read as a 'hostile' and whatnot, as I especially do not mean it like that.

 

We can all write essays about our opinions, but I think that opinions on something like this won't change it. What does help, is listing facts and how we can try to change them. Changing them however, is the biggest challenge.

• Attention seekers: Yes, they are here in the community. Are they everywhere? Yes, they are everywhere. It is not that we are known to be a community full of attention seekers, so this is not really something fixable. (In the end, we all care about recognition and the feeling that people care about us, though some people here hide it and some do not.
• Stricter rules: I don't know what to say about this because I don't play anymore.
• Fear of saying what you want: It should be universally known that we should stay between the lines. This also is not something on this server only. It's everywhere. If you feel angry, let people know while not crossing the line. Here is where your rule thing and this thing kind of contradict (is that the right word?), because on one hand you want stricter rules, and on the other hand you want to say what you want.
• Staff: This is true. Some staff are not doing their job as well as others, but this is not really up to us, as we do not know the protocol. As Jerry stated, if you want to complain about certain staff, PM him. This will come over more serious than a vague public complaint about staff. It's just that staff can't be funny sometimes, because they have to enforce the rules, and authority is needed then. I have experienced that if people behave normally, staff is less strict and more funny.

I probably explained this in a weird way, but oh well.

 

Okay so, what I've seen in this thread by skimming through this thread is people are scared. Scared to say what they think. Let people judge you, they don't know you who really are :)

Well said Kris, very well said. ;)

Also people should think TOGETHER as a team, not as one soul